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View Poll Results: Which city gets the most ice storms and mud/landslides?
Portland 7 63.64%
Seattle 4 36.36%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-06-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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What do PNW residents say? How common are these in your city?
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:42 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Hmm, guess residents of neither city will admit that 'THEIR' city gets these winter events!

So one has better luck finding the truth on Wikipedia.
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Old 07-06-2014, 02:11 PM
 
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For starters, Landslides/Mudslides are not events are that foremost on the residents' mind. You can look up all lidar maps, read the local papers' articles that focuses on this, and pinpoint safe locations... And once you get here, you'll realize you've most likely got yourself all worked up for nothing. It's just such a non-factor.

Ice storms is Portland's thing. The Puget Sound is a moderating influence for Seattle, though it does get black ice in some spots. You're assuming this is the life every winter. It's not. Usually it's wet/rainy. There'll be winters where El Niño is in effect... It'll be sunny, dry (no rain/dampy-ness) but cold (this is my favorite kind of winter). And there will be winters where there's actual snow events... Generally the cities shut down. Plowing isn't going to be as good as you've experienced in Ohio. And really you shouldn't be driving anyway because everyone else just don't know how to drive in the dang snow.
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:18 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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For starters, Landslides/Mudslides are not events are that foremost on the residents' mind. You can look up all lidar maps, read the local papers' articles that focuses on this, and pinpoint safe locations... And once you get here, you'll realize you've most likely got yourself all worked up for nothing. It's just such a non-factor.

Ice storms is Portland's thing. The Puget Sound is a moderating influence for Seattle, though it does get black ice in some spots. You're assuming this is the life every winter. It's not. Usually it's wet/rainy. There'll be winters where El Niño is in effect... It'll be sunny, dry (no rain/dampy-ness) but cold (this is my favorite kind of winter). And there will be winters where there's actual snow events... Generally the cities shut down. Plowing isn't going to be as good as you've experienced in Ohio. And really you shouldn't be driving anyway because everyone else just don't know how to drive in the dang snow.
Yes, that is understandable that cities that seldom deal with snow would not invest in snow plowing equipment,and I would gladly be housebound for those rare few days than see them waste the money for something that is not frequent as here in OH.Ice is much,much worse than snow,in every way.

I have been checking the online papers for weather events,and doing searches. That how I found this video of a father and son trying to outrun a Portland mudslide in their pickup. Have never come across anything about mudslides in Seattle. Neither my son nor I think they are anything to take lightly,and disregard!


Landslides - YouTube
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Muncie, IN
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Portland gets more due to cold outflow from the Gorge. Cold air at the surface and warmer above makes ice storms. Seattle doesn't have quite the same set up. Portland has way more ice storms.
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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Yes, that is understandable that cities that seldom deal with snow would not invest in snow plowing equipment,and I would gladly be housebound for those rare few days than see them waste the money for something that is not frequent as here in OH.Ice is much,much worse than snow,in every way.

I have been checking the online papers for weather events,and doing searches. That how I found this video of a father and son trying to outrun a Portland mudslide in their pickup. Have never come across anything about mudslides in Seattle. Neither my son nor I think they are anything to take lightly,and disregard!


Landslides - YouTube
I'm just giving you the heads up that if you're asking for a discussion about mudslides/Landslides, not to expect much. It's a subject that's meet with indifference because it's a rare event for most part. People in Seattle can talk about Earthquake preparation and depending on area even volcano preparation. Mudslides? Nada.

I am surprised that you didn't find anything on mudslides in Seattle. There is an area north of Seattle, on the coast between Edmonds and Everett that is prone to landslides. Which cuts the Sounder commuter train (North line) service during Winter. Check the Seattle Times, they should have articles talking about mudslides.

I've lived in Seattle for almost 25 years... And encountered black ice once. Just. One. Time.
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:08 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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I'm just giving you the heads up that if you're asking for a discussion about mudslides/Landslides, not to expect much. It's a subject that's meet with indifference because it's a rare event for most part. People in Seattle can talk about Earthquake preparation and depending on area even volcano preparation. Mudslides? Nada.

I am surprised that you didn't find anything on mudslides in Seattle. There is an area north of Seattle, on the coast between Edmonds and Everett that is prone to landslides. Which cuts the Sounder commuter train (North line) service during Winter. Check the Seattle Times, they should have articles talking about mudslides.

I've lived in Seattle for almost 25 years... And encountered black ice once. Just. One. Time.
Thank you for the info,it is wonderful to hear that black ice is rare in Seattle,I have had two scary times with it here,and that was two,too many!
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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It has to be pretty darn cold for black ice to form (depending on how it's defined), which excludes both cities listed. "Black ice" as I originally understood it was when car exhaust freezes on impact with the road, making it essentially a frozen oil slick, and understandably slippery and dangerous. Temps have to be well below 0 usually for that kind of black ice to form. Now I'm hearing black ice can be any ice that doesn't crystalize as whitish/gray on the surface of a road.
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Old 07-07-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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Both occasionally get icy roads but Seattle's are much more dangerous to drive on because it is a much hillier city.
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