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And for what it's worth...the vast majority of the largest moving companies are located in the Midwest...United has twice as many trucks as the number two company..7 of the top 10 companies are based in the Midwest.. And 20,000 of the 25,000 moving trucks they run are as well.......which obviously is some sort of regional conspiracy.
I love how both lists essentially have the same cities. I think the country as a whole tends to be more transient than we realize. Usually you only tend to think of Sunbelt cities as having high turnover. This goes to show it's not just the sunbelt. People move, explore, and want to try new places.
^ I'm not really comparing a moving company study versus the census. I'm pretty much just saying that the Census estimates are usually somewhat off and there's a lot of evidence for that.
I doubt Chicago is truly #1 (Houston probably is), but it's higher than most people think. A number of people have been moving to Chicago lately and a lot of them are not anything but middle and upper class people. It's undergoing a little bit of what happened to San Francisco or NYC. There's been a lot of lower class that's moved out, but there's been a lot of middle and upper class to move in. Rents and home prices are rising in many areas of the city, construction is ramping up again, etc. Almost 6 years ago when I got my job and was looking to move to Chicago, I was looking at a few nice, new places in Lakeshore East and it was $1500/month for a 1 bedroom. Today a 1 bedroom in those same buildings is about $2000-$2500/month. If you look at the estimate numbers (yeah, again not 100% accurate, but it's semi truthful), there's been a big increase in the amount of college educated people aged 25+ in the city even since 2008. Prices are increasing and there's a good amount of lower class moving out in some areas and being replaced by middle/upper class.
Exactly. Lower class families are moving out of the gentrified areas, and single and young couples without kids are moving in. Combine that with an outright negative decline in the areas of Chicago that aren't gentrifying (like parts of the West and South) and you get overall stagnant growth.
your premise is bizarre....the same company's statistics showed large outmigration from Chicago a few years ago.
It is also the LARGEST moving company in the nation. If any company has its pulse on where Americans, at least those with enough cash to pay for such services are moving, it is United Van Lines.
think about it, such trends are a very important aspect of the company's operations...so it's in their interest to stay atop such info.
Oh, but because it's a Midwestern company....they are surely Not to be trusted with such statistics? Wtf?
Nobody said that.
What should be appearant, however, is that a Midwestern company is going to show more people going to and from the Midwest due to the fact that their client base will skew Midwest.
What should be appearant, however, is that a Midwestern company is going to show more people going to and from the Midwest due to the fact that their client base will skew Midwest.
Argh....Virtually ALL large American moving companies are based in the Midwest....put on your thinking caps..why would that be? It's the Middle of the country!!!! Why does a spider sit in the middle of its web!
if someone is moving from NYC to San Diego or Seattle to Miami...why would they hire a local company..they are moving cross country. THINK!!!
AsI pointed out, 20,000 of the 25,000 moving trucks of the major 10 firms are based in the Midwest. does that mean 80% of Americans using moving companies are Midwesterners??? These are national (even international) operations based in the Midwest...so United airlines is based in Chicago...therefore most of their customers are CHicagoans right?
There really are some folks on these boards that need more schooling.
Argh....Virtually ALL large American moving companies are based in the Midwest....put on your thinking caps..why would that be? It's the Middle of the country!!!! Why does a spider sit in the middle of its web!
if someone is moving from NYC to San Diego or Seattle to Miami...why would they hire a local company..they are moving cross country. THINK!!!
AsI pointed out, 20,000 of the 25,000 moving trucks of the major 10 firms are based in the Midwest. does that mean 80% of Americans using moving companies are Midwesterners??? These are national (even international) operations based in the Midwest...so United airlines is based in Chicago...therefore most of their customers are CHicagoans right?
There really are some folks on these boards that need more schooling.
Maybe only Midwesterners hire professional movers, and everyone else dumps their possessions in trash bags and loads up the corolla?
And for what it's worth...the vast majority of the largest moving companies are located in the Midwest...United has twice as many trucks as the number two company..7 of the top 10 companies are based in the Midwest.. And 20,000 of the 25,000 moving trucks they run are as well.......which obviously is some sort of regional conspiracy.
AsI pointed out, 20,000 of the 25,000 moving trucks of the major 10 firms are based in the Midwest. does that mean 80% of Americans using moving companies are Midwesterners??? These are national operations based in the Midwest...so United airlines is based in Chicago...therefore most of their customers are CHicagoans right?
There really are some folks on these boards that need more schooling.
Where a company is headquartered and where it locates its trucks are two different things. Do you really think that United sends a van from Fenton, MO to move someone from Manhattan to Brooklyn? Who, exactly, needs schooling?
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Argh....Virtually ALL large American moving companies are based in the Midwest....put on your thinking caps..why would that be? It's the Middle of the country!!!! Why does a spider sit in the middle of its web!
if someone is moving from NYC to San Diego or Seattle to Miami...why would they hire a local company..they are moving cross country. THINK!!!
AsI pointed out, 20,000 of the 25,000 moving trucks of the major 10 firms are based in the Midwest. does that mean 80% of Americans using moving companies are Midwesterners??? These are national (even international) operations based in the Midwest...so United airlines is based in Chicago...therefore most of their customers are CHicagoans right?
There really are some folks on these boards that need more schooling.
Really?
Im not going to get into it with you. Any data from one company isnt useful. Period.
Exactly. Lower class families are moving out of the gentrified areas, and single and young couples without kids are moving in. Combine that with an outright negative decline in the areas of Chicago that aren't gentrifying (like parts of the West and South) and you get overall stagnant growth.
The figures in this link you provided for Chicago the metro area line up with the data from the United Van Lines report that shows there was an outmigration from the Chicago area until this year; the Van lines report was also for the peak moving season of 2014.... your census report only goes to 2013...so what's your point with this post?
I posted this because it was an interesting study by the world's largest moving company that contradicts most of the posts in city data as far as the stagnation of Chicago and the Northeast; if it only means that more corporate families are moving into these areas listed and setting up house than people who literally throw their things into hefty bags and load up the 2004 Corolla for the big move, than so be it. I would much rather see a moving van next door than a bunch of black bags piled up in front of the yard, just call me a snob, I guess.
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