Phoenix Closing Gap on Philly in City Population Once Again (state, rates)
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It seems that Phoenix is closing in to surpass Philly in city population to reclaim the 5th spot once again. Has this already happened? or Could it happen this year? This time it is inevitable unless Philly can boost a growth rate at or greater than Phoenix. You also have San Antonio closing in at a faster rate than Phoenix as well with over 1.4 million clicking in at over 6 percent. However, I will give Philly some benefit of the doubt. Even though it's growing it doesn't have Detroit's declining growth rate. If New Orleans once the nation's 3rd largest city during the 1840's can bounce back while still maintaining at 10% growth rate (hard to believe it's still doing this despite people returning from Katrina but that was years ago) I guess anything is possible but then again it's possible that Phoenix could knock Philly out of the 5th position. Would we see Philly blowing up in growth like DC in the future? Who knows. Only time will tell.
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Will we live to see Philly go the way of Detroit, New Orleans, Charleston falling out of the top 10 largest cities list?
Your thoughts and predictions. I posted a poll option.
Phoenix never actually surpassed Philadelphia. It's population was overestimated. Yearly counts aren't as accurate as the decade census so we won't know for sure again. I assume they're overestimating once again.
It is however easier to grow a city with 600 sq miles than it is one with 134 square miles. It may be inevitable eventually but Phoenix will never actually be the larger city.
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I've never been impressed with the city populations of about half of the cities on the list of the top 10 largest in the US. Everybody knows about the sunbelt formula of city limits stretched our to the size of New England counties and Phoenix is certainly no exception of that.
Both cities are jockying around 1.5 million
Philadelphia packs it in with 134 square miles of land
Phoenix's land area 517 square miles
Or compare San Antonio which has twice the city population of Boston. Which city seems bigger?
Every year between 2000 and 2010 are rough estimates. They're not exact. They take into account only new housing and apartment unit construction but don't take into account rehabs of old buildings or conversions, vacancy rates, foreclosures, etc.
The decade censuses are much more accurate and when they did that they found they were overestimating Phoenix's growth.
It seems that Phoenix is closing in to surpass Philly in city population to reclaim the 5th spot once again. Has this already happened? or Could it happen this year? This time it is inevitable unless Philly can boost a growth rate at or greater than Phoenix. You also have San Antonio closing in at a faster rate than Phoenix
You do realize that Phoenix and San Antonio are almost 4 x the geographical size of Philly right? At 500 sq miles Philly would have a population of about 4 M people.
Phoenix never actually surpassed Philadelphia. It's population was overestimated. Yearly counts aren't as accurate as the decade census so we won't know for sure again. I assume they're overestimating once again.
It is however easier to grow a city with 600 sq miles than it is one with 134 square miles. It may be inevitable eventually but Phoenix will never actually be the larger city.
Larger as in city population or metro? When it comes to metro population Phoenix will not be larger in that regard.
Larger as in city population or metro? When it comes to metro population Phoenix will not be larger in that regard.
Larger just as in larger. Even if Phoenix surpasses Philadelphia in population, just look at the two. And this isn't considering Metro population at all. Phoenix is over 500 square miles. It is very sprawly and low density. Very little in the way of highrises or urbanity. Philadelphia is massive and packs 1.6 million people into 134 square miles. Massive downtown with hundreds of highrises, vibrancy, miles upon miles of dense walkable urbanity. Philadelphia will always be viewed as the larger city just like most people view San Francisco, Boston and DC as larger cities that Phoenix.
This is nonsense. Everyone knows Philly is undercounted due to Census conspiracies to make NYC look bigger, and to promote Sunbelt growth. While the Census might lead you to believe otherwise, Philly is growing by nearly 100,000 people a year and will surpass Chicago and LA in 20 years.
This is nonsense. Everyone knows Philly is undercounted due to Census conspiracies to make NYC look bigger, and to promote Sunbelt growth. While the Census might lead you to believe otherwise, Philly is growing by nearly 100,000 people a year and will surpass Chicago and LA in 20 years.
Lol. Philadelphia hater. Should've known this thread would bring them out!
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