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Old 04-03-2015, 12:35 AM
 
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Just out of curiosity, what is SF msa + SJ msa? I work on the border of the two metros (I cross over the border for lunch often, Palo Alto to Menlo Park), and see the connectedness and the growth from the influx of tech/start up workers in both areas daily. In just a few years it's become really noticeable and is a bit astounding how quickly it has picked up.

Would be curious to know how much the SJ msa is contributing to that at the Bay Area level.
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:37 AM
 
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It's definitely the traffic. I live Uptown and there is traffic all day/everyday. I dread leaving my apartment everyday. Adding that many people in such a short period of time seems unreal. The roadways just can't handle it. Until we can improve public transportation this city will be miserable to get around.

I'm ok with rapid growth as long as the city can handle it and Houston just can't handle it.
Are there any cities that can handle rapid growth traffic-wise?

Seattle's traffic is pretty bad, I don't know how they going to fix that.
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Old 04-03-2015, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Are there any cities that can handle rapid growth traffic-wise?

Seattle's traffic is pretty bad, I don't know how they going to fix that.
Underground light rail expansions are already underway, although Seattle does have a really great bus system in operation. The state is also currently evaluating a request by our main transit agency (and Seattle's mayor) for a large stipend which would go to fund further transit projects.

Seattle is no NYC, but I would say that we're doing a lot of good things to improve our infrastructure. It also helps that our region is pretty much in full support of mass transit and TOD developments (save for your garden variety NIMBY).
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Just out of curiosity, what is SF msa + SJ msa? I work on the border of the two metros (I cross over the border for lunch often, Palo Alto to Menlo Park), and see the connectedness and the growth from the influx of tech/start up workers in both areas daily. In just a few years it's become really noticeable and is a bit astounding how quickly it has picked up.

Would be curious to know how much the SJ msa is contributing to that at the Bay Area level.
This list of US Metro's is based on the 2014 Census estimates,

List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I did a quick calculation and found that the combined SF/SJ metro would be 6.5 million. Combined they grew about 375k with about a 6% growth rate over the 2010 census...
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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This list of US Metro's is based on the 2014 Census estimates,

List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I did a quick calculation and found that the combined SF/SJ metro would be 6.5 million. Combined they grew about 375k with about a 6% growth rate over the 2010 census...
Thanks! Yeah I moved to the region in 2010 and it has been growing crazily (which is odd because most of the urban areas are fully built out... Where are they moving to? More people per house/apt?).
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Are there any cities that can handle rapid growth traffic-wise?

Seattle's traffic is pretty bad, I don't know how they going to fix that.
I'm not sure. I only have experience with Houston so I can only speak on it. I try not to venture out too far from where I live but even getting a mile or 2 from my apartment can take half and hour to an hour because the congestion is so overwhelming. I know it's my own fault for moving into a district that is so well known for it's congestion but it doesn't seem like the city is trying very hard to ease some of it. There just seems to be rapid growth with no solutions to fix it. The city should invest in putting rail in the highest congested and growing districts like Uptown, Upper Kirby, Energy Corridor, and Westchase. The west side of town is the rapidly growing area and it doesn't seem like much focus is being put on getting people around in those areas.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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I'm not sure. I only have experience with Houston so I can only speak on it. I try not to venture out too far from where I live but even getting a mile or 2 from my apartment can take half and hour to an hour because the congestion is so overwhelming. I know it's my own fault for moving into a district that is so well known for it's congestion but it doesn't seem like the city is trying very hard to ease some of it. There just seems to be rapid growth with no solutions to fix it. The city should invest in putting rail in the highest congested and growing districts like Uptown, Upper Kirby, Energy Corridor, and Westchase. The west side of town is the rapidly growing area and it doesn't seem like much focus is being put on getting people around in those areas.
Uptown (Galleria) has decide to go with dedicated bus lanes instead of light rail..

https://www.ridemetro.org/News/Documents/UptownBRT.aspx
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Old 04-03-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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I'm Surprised Denver or Austin are not on the list.
In raw numbers, Austin was 11th in the United States right after 10th place Seattle and it was only behind Seattle by 370 people or so. Denver was 12th in the United States by raw numbers, about 3,000 people behind Seattle in total growth last year.

By percentages, Austin was first and Denver sixth. Here is a chart for that (my screenshot):

https://www.city-data.com/forum/membe...ic121523-a.png
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Old 04-03-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Uptown (Galleria) has decide to go with dedicated bus lanes instead of light rail..

https://www.ridemetro.org/News/Documents/UptownBRT.aspx
I don't think that will help much but I hope it does. Anything that will reduce traffic on Westheimer and Post Oak Blvd will be appreciated. I wish Uptown had underground tunnels like Downtown. People in Houston would be more likely to walk when they can avoid the brutal weather.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Limbo
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I miss the 90s Houston. It was more laid back then and DJ screw was still alive.
I hear that about Atlanta, too. Things were better for residents before the 'explosion' of growth. It goes both ways, though. New people bring new opportunities to the city.
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