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Did you see the data I posted? The Washington, DC MSA has more foreign born Hispanics than the San Francisco MSA (yet a higher % of educational attainment among Hispanics).
To be clear, I wasn't talking generally about Black vs Hispanic educational attainment. I was talking about educational attainment among Hispanics in the Bay Area compared to that of Hispanics in DC and Miami.
Why are you getting combative/defensive with me? You seemed perplexed, so I simply explained why the discrepancy you pointed out exists. You always quote a lot of stats to try to get your point across, but sometimes stats are no more than just numbers, and really don't answer some questions and don't always get down to the heart of every issue. This is one if those cases, and a lot of the stats you are posting really have very little to no bearing on the heart of issue that you are trying to get at.
I'm Hispanic and grew up in a lily white upper middle class Bay Area suburb, "sad" I know.....
My next door neighbors are white and Hispanic. People across the street are Korean next door to them is a black family... I really feel bad for all of them.
My next door neighbors are white and Hispanic. People across the street are Korean next door to them is a black family... I really feel bad for all of them.
Middle/Upper Middle class racial integration? YUCK!
"Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation now, Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation tomorrow, Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation forever!!"
Why are you getting combative/defensive with me? You seemed perplexed, so I simply explained why the discrepancy you pointed out exists. You always quote a lot of stats to try to get your point across, but sometimes stats are no more than just numbers, and really don't answer some questions and don't always get down to the heart of every issue. This is one if those cases, and a lot of the stats you are posting really have very little to no bearing on the heart of issue that you are trying to get at.
How was my response combative?
You said that language issues were one of the reasons why Hispanic educational attainment was lower than Black educational attainment (which isn't really a point of contention here). That was a complete misreading of my statement, which did not compare Black-Hispanic educational attainment rates at large. What I was "surprised" by was that the educational attainment rate among Hispanics in the Bay Area was a good deal lower than it is in the DC area.
I then said that language issues/citizenship issues couldn't really explain that disparity because a larger percentage of Hispanics in the DC area are foreign born. It's not like a kid who was born in El Salvador or Guatemala and came to the U.S. in the 1980s has a heap of advantages over a kid who was born in the Valley.
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Omg... A rational person. I'm black so I get it apparently I need a steady stream of wealthy AA's and clubs to enjoy my culture. I like all that but how about the best city for raising a decent individual... And they wonder why race relations in this country are so messed up.
Yeah, I think there's not enough emphasis on that. Just because you're a certain skin color or come from a certain culture doesn't guarantee that you aren't a piece of trash as a person.
Hell, my group of friends are all not only from different ethnic or cultural backgrounds, but all different class backgrounds. I know it's hard to believe, but it's totally possible to be friends or acquaintances with people because they're good people.
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Originally Posted by sav858
I'm Hispanic and grew up in a lily white upper middle class Bay Area suburb, "sad" I know.....
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My next door neighbors are white and Hispanic. People across the street are Korean next door to them is a black family... I really feel bad for all of them.
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Originally Posted by sav858
Middle/Upper Middle class racial integration? YUCK!
"Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation now, Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation tomorrow, Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation forever!!"
Nah, we need to stick to ourselves. That definitely solves everything! Nothing says integrating into America like walling ourselves off from people who look different than us.
I'm going to my friend's sister quinceanera this weekend out in Northridge. I'm sure my friend's professional parents are "sell outs" to mainstream American culture. Nothing more mainstream American than a quinceanera with a banda playing. Maybe they should be poor and move to East Los or Pacoima to be more "authentic".
I think it's funny that you find it "sad" that there aren't a thousand different Hispanic versions of George Lopez's neighborhood from the George Lopez show noticeably located across the USA, when most Hispanic people don't really care one way or the other.
Middle/Upper Middle class racial integration? YUCK!
"Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation now, Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation tomorrow, Middle/Upper middle class ethnic segregation forever!!"
I think we need to come up with terms other than "segregation" and "integration" because people like to throw those words around like weapons. In some cases, it's similar to the cries of "reverse racism" and "double standards."
People hear the word "segregation" and assume it's the pernicious variety African Americans knew in the Deep South. By law, my father had to step off a sidewalk when a white person approached. He couldn't even attend the flagship school in his home state, which is how the historically black university came about. That was segregation. I'm not sure how we've come to equate that word with affluent, majority Black neighborhoods in Atlanta ("segregation!").
I think we need to come up with terms other than "segregation" and "integration" because people like to throw those words around like weapons. In some cases, it's similar to the cries of "reverse racism" and "double standards."
People hear the word "segregation" and assume it's the pernicious variety African Americans knew in the Deep South. By law, my father had to step off a sidewalk when a white person approached. He couldn't even attend the flagship school in his home state, which is how the historically black university came about. That was segregation. I'm not sure how we've come to equate that word with affluent, majority Black neighborhoods in Atlanta ("segregation!").
Or they just like to use them as they are defined....
Or they just like to use them as they are defined....
Yeah...because we all know Howard University is no different from Little Rock's Central High School. Just a lot of "segregation" goin' on.
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That definitely solves everything! Nothing says integrating into America like walling ourselves off from people who look different than us.
