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To other tourist areas of LA yes, some of which don't have metro access and nobody, especially tourist, wants to take a bus from K-town to West Hollywood, Griffth Park or the numerous hiking trails. You can get to SaMo by train. Or downtown LA or hollwood, or pasadena, or Long Beach, or Culver City but is a tourist really hanging out there besides DTLA and Hollywood?if your a tourist your going to the Westside mostly. Places like Beverly Hills, Venice or whatever don't have convenient PT for a tourist.
That's true, but such is the nature of a decentralized city built during the interurban era. That's why Los Angeles' urban fabric has such a "patchwork" quality to it.
That's true, but such is the nature of a decentralized city built during the interurban era. That's why Los Angeles' urban fabric has such a "patchwork" quality to it.
Yes, and metro will eventually link all that together so you don't have to pay that come-and-go fee. You can just take PT. Crenshaw Line Up next. Then Purple. Hell, Palms became more walkable because the train is there now.
To other tourist areas of LA yes, some of which don't have metro access and nobody, especially tourist, wants to take a bus from K-town to West Hollywood, Griffth Park or the numerous hiking trails. You can get to SaMo by metro train. Or downtown LA or hollwood, or pasadena, or Long Beach, or Culver City but is a tourist really hanging out there besides DTLA, SaMo and Hollywood?if your a tourist your going to the Westside mostly. Places like Beverly Hills, Greater Wilshire (LACMA/Tar Pits), Venice or whatever don't have convenient PT for a tourist.
Actually as a public transportation user take another look at who rides the Rapid Transit #720 bus. Surprisingly you will see quite a few tourist. Next time you ride the bus to the Getty, look at who's on it.
Actually as a public transportation user take another look at who rides the Rapid Transit #720 bus. Surprisingly you will see quite a few tourist. Next time you ride the bus to the Getty, look at who's on it.
True, but for a true urbanite you might be scared cause nobody walks in LA.
others....not east coast at all but people walk around these areas. Shop, do all that in these areas without a car. You just gotta put it into perspective that #1 L.A. is huge, #2 L.A. has nodes like these all around with different amount of access etc. It's just different.
Boyle Hts main drag (older, more walkable) is actually Ceaser Chavez but First street is good.
Also, Little Italy is tiny and you can definitely circumscribe an area of ktown without much of what you're saying save for strip malls and their attendant parking lots. And strip malls don't matter much when it comes to actually walking--it's stores and potential shortcuts weighed against the loss of potential mixed use. It's not that dire. Try walking around ktown to get a feel for that.
Yea, and most of the strip malls parking are smaller than other sun belt cities. Even in most of LA, if there is parking in the front, it's not the same as Dallas, Houston, Atlanta etc.
LA does some unique things with it's strip malls though to squeeze more retail/restaurants in. Some are 2-3 stories. Some of those have little public spaces around the retail.
I've never seen other cities do this really.
LA's newer retail centers, where you have a large grocery store, CVS/Walgreens and other chains have underground parking and a parking lot that isn't visible from the street.
A couple of these have housing above them.
I've lived in the northside chicago, in the denser areas. There's little strip malls there as well, but they never take me out of a neighborhood so to speak.
How do any of those places look like olympic Which is further down and the southern border?
They dont look like Olmypic. Anyone who says so is lying.
8th street is pretty urban/gritty. There is a 30 story tower planned around there somewhere though.
Santa Monica is a town of less than 100K and it's urban fabric is hardly consistent all around town compared to what's found along it's core. And this is if we ignore the fact that the place is pretty far from LA's core where majority of it's urbanity exists.
So I don't really get all this talk surrounding it, as it's hardly pushing LA to one of the top spots by itself. In fact, even if you combined all the small nodes of actual urbanity found throughout the CSA like Culver City, West Hollywood etc it doesn't really accumulate to greater urbanity than any of the traditionally urban cities, and I would honestly doubt that's the case against DC/Baltimore even. Unless we are deeming places urban these days because they have sidewalks.
And just about everybody will agree that those LA nodes throughout the CSA are usually pretty far and separated from one another.
Lol.
One of the guy's who agreed said Long Beach NY is urban because of some old midrises.
I think the fact we keep looking at the same blocks over and over again says it all here.
My point was that even neighborhoods that look terrible for walking can have high walkscores if the retail density is high enough.
There's alot more blocks like that in the other part of Koreatown. It's full of old apartment and commmercial buildings.
But you're the guy who said it looks like the Wynwood area, so....
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