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And also more cloud cover to block the sun, and cooling wind gust from thunderstorm outflows. Great alleviating factors for summer's heat that Phoenix and the DSW sorely lack in (even with the monsoon).
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PHX's climate is far more ideal than anything Florida has to offer. And as an added bonus, we can drive just 1 hour and be in a completely different temp zone. Heck, just Saturday night I drove from central Scottsdale where it was 85 degrees, and just 20 minutes later up in the mountains outside of town it was 69 degrees. Try that in Tampa. Oh, and it was 15% humidity. Suck on that, Florida.
You know that you've lost the debate in defending a location when you start bringing up other outside destinations.
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And also more cloud cover to block the sun, and cooling wind gust from thunderstorm outflows. Great alleviating factors for summer's heat that Phoenix and the DSW sorely lack in (even with the monsoon).
You know that you've lost the debate in defending a location when you start bringing up other outside destinations.
I'm sorry that most people don't like consistent 75°+ dewpoints
And also more cloud cover to block the sun, and cooling wind gust from thunderstorm outflows. Great alleviating factors for summer's heat that Phoenix and the DSW sorely lack in (even with the monsoon).
You know that you've lost the debate in defending a location when you start bringing up other outside destinations.
Clouds? Funny how Florida prides itself on being the "Sunshine State", so why are you bragging about clouds? Anyways, FL isn't nearly as sunny as AZ. In fact its gloom n doom compared to us, coupled with garbage weather and humidity.
And mentioning Scottsdale is hardly an "outside destination". It literally borders Phoenix. Not sure where you're going with that.
That's okay, even less like broiling desert temps.
We are ok with that, it means Arizona will be affordable for the long haul. Arizona already has a better salary to COL ratio than Florida, and we don't want ours to get any worse.
Phoenix heat is easily avoidable with proper strategies. Yes, even in outside work. Lots of ice cold water and those wet towel things to wear around your head. Those portable fans that spray water are also a great investment.
A lot of the heat in Phoenix is caused by the Urban Heat Island which can be reduced if we were actually dedicatsd to it. I know in Los Angeles some roads are being painted white to offset the heat, we could do that here. Also density and shade structures on top of trees and plants work fine and dandy. Cars are some of the biggest producers but you know... no one is going to give that up anytime soon, so heat it is.
Clouds? Funny how Florida prides itself on being the "Sunshine State", so why are you bragging about clouds? Anyways, FL isn't nearly as sunny as AZ. In fact its gloom n doom compared to us, coupled with garbage weather and humidity.
The clouds and storms of Florida don't last very long, and they are in the form of magnificent thunderheads in the high-sun: thus, it won't really be dreary like, say, winter in the PNW, where sun is low, daylight is short, and the clouds are low-level stratus.
I myself don't really care for excessive sunshine (especially during summer); you need some time of clouds and rain to give the good moisture the landscape needs to be lush and verdant.
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And mentioning Scottsdale is hardly an "outside destination". It literally borders Phoenix. Not sure where you're going with that.
I wasn't referring to Scottsdale, I was referring to all those mountain destinations 2+hrs away from Phoenix everyone there uses to defend the city's summers. The coolness of those mountain outposts is quite irrelevant to how conditions are in Phoenix.
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Id say youre wrong considering that the fastest growing place in the nation is Phoenix. And when its not Phoenix, its usually Las Vegas.
For me, I've never understood 110+ temps being better than humidity. I'll Take Tampa's humidity and the lush green landscape that comes with it over the blast furnace heat and the dry, brown, barren terrain that comes with that. No hatin', lol. I can understand why so many don't like the humidity. As long as I can dress appropriately, the heat and cold doesn't bother me. It's just my personal preference.
For me, I've never understood 110+ temps being better than humidity. I'll Take Tampa's humidity and the lush green landscape that comes with it over the blast furnace heat and the dry, brown, barren terrain that comes with that. No hatin', lol. I can understand why so many don't like the humidity. As long as I can dress appropriately, the heat and cold doesn't bother me. It's just my personal preference.
My personal take, as someone who sweats quite a bit, I don't like feeling I got out of a shower doing anything outside. I have very thick hair and it is impossible to dry here in Arizona, somewhere like Tampa is a whole other league of hair drying issues.
I think it's easier to "avoid" heat per say in the dry weather. A shady area can drop the "feels like" temperatures by 30 degrees. Let that sink in. Before the urban heat island, Phoenix never really reached triple digits quite like it does now. Go to the remote parts of the Sonoran desert in June and you'll find that out for yourself. It won't get as hot as Phoenix does. If it's humid and hot outside in the South, even if it's cloudy, a tree doesn't do squat. A tree does a lot more here. And yes, we do have trees. So does grass. Tampa's heat is already factoring in grass and trees. Tampa and a good chunk of the inland South by far gets hotter in terms of feel.
Arizona's heat may be quicker to kill you though, if you aren't smart about it. It's safe to say you need to double or even triple water consumption (if outside a lot in strenuous activity) during the summer. They say normal is about 64 ounces? Again, double or triple. At minimum a gallon a day. Many won't do this even though it's common sense.
I have a theory that people who sweat a lot (naturally) prefer drier heat whereas people who don't sweat a lot prefer more humid heat (same heat indexes, different temperatures and RH). Just a theory however.
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