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View Poll Results: Which city from each end of its state is more similar
Cleveland/Cincinatti 50 46.30%
Pgh/Philly 43 39.81%
Neither 15 13.89%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-29-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I think it might be time to add someone to the ignore list, but I want to make sure they're proven wrong or that their only experience with here is an article when they post.....
I think he's said before that he has friends who have gone to CMU, so he knows about the city somewhat secondhandedly.

I don't take it personally though. BajanYankee just likes to pick fights. I wonder if his day job is being a lawyer.
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I think he's said before that he has friends who have gone to CMU, so he knows about the city somewhat secondhandedly.

I don't take it personally though. BajanYankee just likes to pick fights. I wonder if his day job is being a lawyer.
From my experiences, I sometimes wonder if most CMU and Pitt students not from here ever venture past the South Side and Downtown . Seems like a possible career with how some of his posts on here are .
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I think it might be time to add someone to the ignore list, but I want to make sure they're proven wrong or that their only experience with here is an article when they post.....
Put me on your ignore list.

I'm not sure what my experiences in Pittsburgh have to do with the article. The article was about surveying conducted by the AFL-CIO.
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Put me on your ignore list.

I'm not sure what my experiences in Pittsburgh have to do with the article. The article was about surveying conducted by the AFL-CIO.
What experiences? You've admitted to having no experiences about this city at all and just have some unknown vendetta against it. You are just here to cause arguments like a troll because you think you're an expert about this area from reading articles..... You would never come into the Pittsburgh thread and say any of this stuff.....Stick to NY and Philly, thanks.

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Old 01-29-2016, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Yep, exactly. There's a Pittsburgh vs Philadelphia thread and it's not going that well between posters.

I live in Philly and I like Pittsburgh. But, truthfully, Philadelphians, generally, don't think about Pittsburgh very much.
Exactly, it's a one sided inferiority complex. There are great things about both cities, but clearly Philadelphia could care less about what Pittsburgh is doing.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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It says they visited Aliquippa, Ambridge, Butler, Cranberry and Monaca, none of which are in Allegheny County.

Yeah, the suburbs of Pittsburgh are such hotbeds of social conservatism that if you factored out the voting data from the city of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County still would have been won by Barack Obama in 2012.



And according to this study, Pittsburgh is the 35th-most liberal city in the United States with a population of at least 100,000, right beneath the known liberal bastion of Madison, WI. And that's despite having a whiter-than-average population when the study illustrates a direct relationship between the size of a city's minority population and liberal voting patterns.
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Old 01-31-2016, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It says they visited Aliquippa, Ambridge, Butler, Cranberry and Monaca, none of which are in Allegheny County.

Yeah, the suburbs of Pittsburgh are such hotbeds of social conservatism that if you factored out the voting data from the city of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County still would have been won by Barack Obama in 2012.
Are you going to petition the Census Bureau to redefine the Pittsburgh MSA as only Allegheny County?
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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Exactly, it's a one sided inferiority complex. There are great things about both cities, but clearly Philadelphia could care less about what Pittsburgh is doing.
I would counter that "Philadelphia" is pretty short sighted then. As a Pennsylvanian first and foremost I want the best for our entire state. We have two great cities and economic engines in our state where some states have zero. Thankfully the vast majority of people in PA are completely indifferent about either city and the arguing is limited to very few people in forums such as this stupid and generally meaningless message board.
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Old 02-21-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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As a person who grew up in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, moved to the suburbs of Philadelphia, went to Penn State (which is effectively 40% Philadelphians, 40% Pittsburghers, 15% PA Elsewheres, and 5% Out-of-staters), lived in Pittsburgh (Shadyside) after college, and have now lived in Philadelphia Center City for 13 years, I can honestly say the two cities are both similar and different in a number of ways.

First, it's true that Philadelphia (as a city) is Center City and then everywhere else. I'm including Queen Village, Bella Vista/Hawthorne, and Fairmount in my "Center City" definition as well as the City Center, Rittenhouse, Washington Square, Society Hill, and Fitler Square. Fishtown, Port Richmond, Northern Liberties, University City, Passyunk, and Parts of South Philly are definitely up and coming. Chestnut Hill has it's own elegance and personality. Parts of the Northeast are just older 50's townhouses - not bad, not appealing, but OK. Other parts of Philadelphia (which make up a far greater area than the previously mentioned areas combined) are essentially ghetto and seriously in decay with even marginal attempts to make certain areas more appealing a joke since they've long passed the point of recoverability.

The worst parts of Pittsburgh are no where near as bad as the worst parts of Philadelphia. On the other hand, Philadelphia is 3 times larger than Pittsburgh. The Philadelphia metro is roughly twice the size of the Pittsburgh metro.

Culturally, Philadelphia has a few more options, but Pittsburgh is a culture-rich city. Philadelphians don't seem to realize this, or care for that matter, but other than the Barnes in Philadelphia, the options in Pittsburgh are quite similar to Philadelphia. In fact, Pittsburgh has a much more extensive Natural History museum than does Philadelphia. The Philadelphia Orchestra and the Pittsburgh Symphony are both exceptional.

Philadelphia clearly has better restaurants. Hands down. But Pittsburgh has some excellent restaurants as well.

Pittsburgh is clearly a more beautiful city. Hands down. But parts of Philadelphia are quite beautiful.

Philadelphia's location makes in easier to get to NYC, DC, the shore, etc. Pittsburgh's location makes it a bit "land-locked", but nearby are many attractions that enable you to escape the city and suburbs.

Both cities have Blue collar/Democratic roots with White collar/Republican suburbs. Both cities have a large number of Urban White collar Democrats in 2016. I would "guesstimate" that Philadelphia and it's suburbs are bit more Democratic than Pittsburgh and it's suburbs. In both cities, the further you get from the city's core, the more Republican it gets.

Philadelphia's established suburbs - the Main Line (Wynnewood, Gladwyne. Bryn Mawr, Radnor, Berwyn) are essentially exactly the same as Pittsburgh's established suburbs (Sewickley, Mount Lebanon, Fox Chapel, Upper St. Clair, Wexford). Philadelphia's Blue Collar suburbs are just like Pittsburgh's Blue Collar suburbs.

Pittsburgh sports teams are far more successful (historically) than Philadelphia sports teams.

Philadelphia is more culturally diverse than Pittsburgh.

However, all in all, the personalities of both cities is remarkably similar. Philadelphians may have a bigger chip on their shoulder, and Pittsburghers may be more stubborn, but their similarities cannot be overlooked. I've spent nearly my whole life living between the two places, and find the similarities far outweigh the differences.

Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are both awesome.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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As a person who grew up in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, moved to the suburbs of Philadelphia, went to Penn State (which is effectively 40% Philadelphians, 40% Pittsburghers, 15% PA Elsewheres, and 5% Out-of-staters), lived in Pittsburgh (Shadyside) after college, and have now lived in Philadelphia Center City for 13 years, I can honestly say the two cities are both similar and different in a number of ways.

First, it's true that Philadelphia (as a city) is Center City and then everywhere else. I'm including Queen Village, Bella Vista/Hawthorne, and Fairmount in my "Center City" definition as well as the City Center, Rittenhouse, Washington Square, Society Hill, and Fitler Square. Fishtown, Port Richmond, Northern Liberties, University City, Passyunk, and Parts of South Philly are definitely up and coming. Chestnut Hill has it's own elegance and personality. Parts of the Northeast are just older 50's townhouses - not bad, not appealing, but OK. Other parts of Philadelphia (which make up a far greater area than the previously mentioned areas combined) are essentially ghetto and seriously in decay with even marginal attempts to make certain areas more appealing a joke since they've long passed the point of recoverability.

The worst parts of Pittsburgh are no where near as bad as the worst parts of Philadelphia. On the other hand, Philadelphia is 3 times larger than Pittsburgh. The Philadelphia metro is roughly twice the size of the Pittsburgh metro.

Culturally, Philadelphia has a few more options, but Pittsburgh is a culture-rich city. Philadelphians don't seem to realize this, or care for that matter, but other than the Barnes in Philadelphia, the options in Pittsburgh are quite similar to Philadelphia. In fact, Pittsburgh has a much more extensive Natural History museum than does Philadelphia. The Philadelphia Orchestra and the Pittsburgh Symphony are both exceptional.

Philadelphia clearly has better restaurants. Hands down. But Pittsburgh has some excellent restaurants as well.

Pittsburgh is clearly a more beautiful city. Hands down. But parts of Philadelphia are quite beautiful.

Philadelphia's location makes in easier to get to NYC, DC, the shore, etc. Pittsburgh's location makes it a bit "land-locked", but nearby are many attractions that enable you to escape the city and suburbs.

Both cities have Blue collar/Democratic roots with White collar/Republican suburbs. Both cities have a large number of Urban White collar Democrats in 2016. I would "guesstimate" that Philadelphia and it's suburbs are bit more Democratic than Pittsburgh and it's suburbs. In both cities, the further you get from the city's core, the more Republican it gets.

Philadelphia's established suburbs - the Main Line (Wynnewood, Gladwyne. Bryn Mawr, Radnor, Berwyn) are essentially exactly the same as Pittsburgh's established suburbs (Sewickley, Mount Lebanon, Fox Chapel, Upper St. Clair, Wexford). Philadelphia's Blue Collar suburbs are just like Pittsburgh's Blue Collar suburbs.

Pittsburgh sports teams are far more successful (historically) than Philadelphia sports teams.

Philadelphia is more culturally diverse than Pittsburgh.

However, all in all, the personalities of both cities is remarkably similar. Philadelphians may have a bigger chip on their shoulder, and Pittsburghers may be more stubborn, but their similarities cannot be overlooked. I've spent nearly my whole life living between the two places, and find the similarities far outweigh the differences.

Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are both awesome.
This is one of the best posts comparing these two cities I've ever seen on CD. I couldn't have said it better myself. +1
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