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This. But i would change Sports to Philadelphia, Public transit to Seattle but Philly for greater area, Downtown for Seattle and suburbs for Philadelphia.
Lemme expand on it.
Philly does the smaller urban nodes with cute boutique mainstreets (Media, Jenkintown, West Chester, Plymouth Meeting, etc.) better than Seattle while Seattle has actual edge cities with a functioning downtown ie; Bellevue, Tacoma, Everett, Kent, etc.; and for a metro our size, we are lacking in that regard.
There are only 3: Conshy, KOP, and Wilmington because Norristown, Camden, Chester and Darby (you can also include Trenton if you wish) do not have a centralized core or a very good one. They're unable to attract business and residential development, which has further resulted in their decline... Had they rebounded earlier or experienced less drastic declines, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
Philly does the smaller urban nodes with cute boutique mainstreets (Media, Jenkintown, West Chester, Plymouth Meeting, etc.) better than Seattle while Seattle has actual edge cities with a functioning downtown ie; Bellevue, Tacoma, Everett, Kent, etc.; and for a metro our size, we are lacking in that regard.
True, Seattle definitely beats Philly on mixed-use suburban intensity, but Philly's suburbs excel on historic/bucolic charm and intimate streetscapes.
True. But Seattle's dotted with denser mixed-use districts, so you're generally within walking distance of at least coffee, a corner grocery, and a bar even if you live in a house.
I think the point was about the suburbs however. Washington state and local policy tends to focus growth into little "urban villages" and new+old downtowns in the suburbs as well. These tend to be farther apart from each other once you leave the older core, but a fast-increasing number of people live in or near places where you can walk to all the key retail and transit is reasonably decent.
True. But Seattle's dotted with denser mixed-use districts, so you're generally within walking distance of at least coffee, a corner grocery, and a bar even if you live in a house.
I think the point was about the suburbs however. Washington state and local policy tends to focus growth into little "urban villages" and new+old downtowns in the suburbs as well. These tend to be farther apart from each other once you leave the older core, but a fast-increasing number of people live in or near places where you can walk to all the key retail and transit is reasonably decent.
Seattle and DC are pretty similar. Very SFH focused where it’s not largeish apartment/mix use neighborhoods
Philly does the smaller urban nodes with cute boutique mainstreets (Media, Jenkintown, West Chester, Plymouth Meeting, etc.) better than Seattle while Seattle has actual edge cities with a functioning downtown ie; Bellevue, Tacoma, Everett, Kent, etc.; and for a metro our size, we are lacking in that regard.
There are only 3: Conshy, KOP, and Wilmington because Norristown, Camden, Chester and Darby (you can also include Trenton if you wish) do not have a centralized core or a very good one. They're unable to attract business and residential development, which has further resulted in their decline... Had they rebounded earlier or experienced less drastic declines, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
True. But Seattle's dotted with denser mixed-use districts, so you're generally within walking distance of at least coffee, a corner grocery, and a bar even if you live in a house.
I think the point was about the suburbs however. Washington state and local policy tends to focus growth into little "urban villages" and new+old downtowns in the suburbs as well. These tend to be farther apart from each other once you leave the older core, but a fast-increasing number of people live in or near places where you can walk to all the key retail and transit is reasonably decent.
Didn't Washington State recently update the zoning on SFH and ban HOA's?
Philadelphia for me. Much more going on, lower cost of living and better weather.
Seattle is nice to visit, but I would be bored after 3 days living there.
I'm the opposite. I lived in the Philly suburbs (10 minutes from the actual city) for a year and couldn't wait to move. I moved there from NYC which I liked but just got tired of the high COL. I live in western Washington now for the past 7 years and love it.
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