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I get what Wizard is saying, though. It's the cultural and tourist hub of the Bay Area, but it's not the economic hub. When Silicon Valley does well, SF does well. Silicon Valley dictates the economy of the Bay Area, not SF, even though it is the premier city of the CSA. Everything SF does revolves around tech from Silicon Valley. Mountain View, Palo Alto, etc. are smaller than SF.
But this is true in most U.S. metros. Very few U.S. metros have a dominant downtown economic hub. LA, Houston, Dallas, Miami, Atlanta etc. are all less downtown-oriented than the Bay Area.
And downtown SF isn't dominated by tech. It has a fairly broad economic base. Silicon Valley is obviously completely dominated by tech.
I think San Francisco being the premier city of the Bay Area, despite not being the largest, is a testament to how San Francisco punches above it's weight culturally and otherwise, not that it punched below it's weight economically. I find a hard time believing a municipality to be a suburb when it has a net inflow of commuters and is largely urban.
Also, Wizard, please stop with the insults. You know nothing about people yet tell them what to do and what they are. My family was very rich before the arrival of the Japanese, when all the wealth was confiscated, but has been able to rebuild ourselves with nothing following the war and are, by no means, poor.
I get what Wizard is saying, though. It's the cultural and tourist hub of the Bay Area, but it's not the economic hub. When Silicon Valley does well, SF does well. Silicon Valley dictates the economy of the Bay Area, not SF, even though it is the premier city of the CSA. Everything SF does revolves around tech from Silicon Valley. Mountain View, Palo Alto, etc. are smaller than SF.
Wizard doesnt get it. It all exists around San Francisco, because of San Francisco. SF is the center of the Bay Area's universe.
you should try taking your own advice and checking facts before trying to argue with someone like me. First, you should not use census estimates from 8 to 10 years ago. 2nd Alameda County is not a part of Silicon Valley. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. it's very simple, compare San Francisco County, San Mateo County, and Santa Clara County. It's not that hard you can do it
You're still wrong. 90,000 commute to SF from San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties, while SF sends 68,000 to those two counties.
- San Jose
- Fresno
- Indianapolis
- Birmingham, AL
- Atlanta--for its size
- San Diego--take away the beaches and weather and you get Bland Diego. Actually a disappointing city, IMO.
Honorable mention: Orange County--I like the place, but for a county of 3,000,000, it's still slowly developing its own identity separate from L.A. That said, it still has a diverse array of neighborhoods and cities, a great mix of cultures, and one of the best job markets on the West Coast.
Is that happening some time in the near future, and I didn't hear about it?
I'm going to play devil's advocate and claim that New York City punches below its weight, at least on the world stage. I think this mostly has to do with it not being a primate city though.
New York City is one of the top cities in the world. The only cities that are on the same level are London, Paris, and Tokyo. That being said, I would say that for most international tourists, they could visit London and count that as all they need to do to see the UK. Same with Paris and France, or Tokyo and Japan. International tourists can't really do that with New York and the United States, though.
Or if I put it this way, if you took the United Kingdom minus London vs. London, France minus Paris vs. Paris, or Tokyo minus Japan vs. Japan in terms of economic, political, social, and cultural clout, it's possible that the "everything elses" might win, but it would be a close fight. Owing to the vastness and sheer size of the United States though, the U.S. minus New York City vs. New York City wouldn't be anywhere close to a fair fight. The "everything else" would blow New York City out of the water. Even if you included the entire metro area.
Just stirring up some controversy here, but I think that being a primate city can sometimes help places punch above their weight, with New York City not being one a strong example of why this is true.
The US is more similar to the entire EU than a single member of the EU. OTOH, you could equally say that NYC punches above its weight for competing with such cities while not even being the capital of the STATE that it's in!
Is that happening some time in the near future, and I didn't hear about it?
This guy has been on an SD rampage lately as he just moved out shortly after moving in. Couldn't make it here, lost his job here, couldn't make friends here, landlord kicked him out. And he blames San Diego for all this. Lol. He's pretty bitter.
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