2015 Combined Statistical Area Gross Product, Released September 20, 2016 (place, Boston, Chicago)
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If you didn't ask and don't feel it warrants a response, you could stop responding to the poster with such a rude attitude.
EDIT: Responding through edit to not drag this on. Well, that's a fair response that I can understand. Though, I'm not one to subscribe to "an eye for an eyes."
If you didn't ask and don't feel it warrants a response, you could stop responding to the poster with such a rude attitude.
I know because he was so polite right?
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Originally Posted by Sav858
Looking at and being familiar with commute patterns it's not hard to understand why they are included. Seeing as you've never lived in the Bay Area not sure why you're so adamant they shouldn't be included.
Exactly. I dont understand the vigorous indignation either.
Not living in the Bay Area doesn't preclude me from having an opinion--especially an opinion that's matched by people from or living in the Bay...
All three have varying connectivity to The Bay, but that isn't what my point is, and that isn't what I disputed....
No it doesn't, just precludes you from having an informed one.
You disputed those three areas being part of the SF Bay Area CSA and CSA's are based on commuting patterns. So yes essentially that is what you were disputing.
No it doesn't, just precludes you from having an informed one.
You disputed those three areas being part of the SF Bay Area CSA and CSA's are based on commuting patterns. So yes essentially that is what you were disputing.
Okay, I see what this is. We're just going to pretend that most people in The Bay don't consider these areas different regions...
I just left California in August, was born in Sacramento and naturally have family in, and know people from and living in, the Bay Area. You may as well call Sacramento the Bay, too...
You win, though, we'll pretend that I'm making my counter up out of thin air and that everyone in "The Bay" include these areas as the same region...
Okay, I see what this is. We're just going to pretend that most people in The Bay don't consider these areas different regions...
I just left California in August, was born in Sacramento and naturally have family in, and know people from and living in, the Bay Area. You may as well call Sacramento the Bay, too...
You win, though, we'll pretend that I'm making my counter up out of thin air and that everyone in "The Bay" include these areas as the same region...
Same as DC and Baltimore. I'm there all the time and have family, people living in DC don't sit around thinking that Baltimore and DC are one happy family.
There are a few CSA's that really throw things as far as what most people would think of as those urban areas. San Fran and DC are probably the most prominent examples. Although MSA goes the other way with San Fran, as I would certainly include San Jose, just leave off all the far flung other areas.
Last edited by Chicago60614; 09-20-2016 at 01:33 PM..
Okay, I see what this is. We're just going to pretend that most people in The Bay don't consider these areas different regions...
I just left California in August, was born in Sacramento and naturally have family in, and know people from and living in, the Bay Area. You may as well call Sacramento the Bay, too...
You win, though, we'll pretend that I'm making my counter up out of thin air and that everyone in "The Bay" include these areas as the same region...
When it comes to how a CSA is defined it doesn't really matter what people's opinions are on the subject. I'm aware a lot of people wouldn't not consider Santa Cruz or San Joaquin County part of the Bay Area culturally but that doesn't change the fact that thousands of people commute from those areas into the core Bay Area for jobs.
Great, not sure why you think being born in Sacramento gives you so much credibility as you seem to mention it in every thread about CA. Doesn't seem like you grew up there are even lived there as a child.
Maybe go drive over the Altamont Pass going westbound at 6am and you might understand why the Stockton MSA is included in the SF Bay Area CSA. Or take the commuter train.
The real question is why you're using CSA, at all. We've established that C-D posters don't like the CSA, and the census bureau itself, uses MSA for GDP.
A quick rundown of growth rates using the MSA's published. I added San Fran and San Jose together and Los Angeles and Riverside because those are the two most obvious metros that feed into each other on most every level.
Size:
New York: 1,602,705
Los Angeles: 1,071,454
San Francisco: 652,277
Chicago: 640,656
Houston: 503,311
Washington DC: 491,042
Dallas: 485,683
Philadelphia: 411,161
Boston: 396,549
Atlanta: 339,203
Miami: 317,986
Seattle: 313,654
Minneapolis: 248,779
Detroit: 245,607
San Diego: 220,573
Phoenix: 219,968
Denver: 193,172
Baltimore: 181,419
St Louis: 155,077
Growth Rates:
Miami: 6.0%
Los Angeles: 5.8%
San Francisco: 5.5%
Detroit: 5.3%
Atlanta: 5.3%
Chicago: 5.2%
Seattle: 5.2%
San Diego: 4.8%
Minneapolis: 4.7%
Boston: 4.6%
New York: 4.3%
Phoenix: 4.2%
Baltimore: 4.0%
Philadelphia: 3.5%
Washington DC: 3.5%
St Louis: 3.4%
Denver: 2.7%
Dallas: 1.5%
Houston: -3.6%
Dallas: 29%
San Francisco: 28%
Miami: 27%
Seattle: 26%
Houston: 25%
San Diego: 25%
Minneapolis: 25%
Detroit: 24%
Denver: 24%
Atlanta: 23%
Los Angeles: 22%
Phoenix: 21%
Chicago: 20%
Boston: 20%
New York: 20%
Baltimore: 19%
Philadelphia: 18%
St Louis: 16%
Washington DC: 14%
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