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For Detroit, there has been huge white flight into the suburbs, so city-proper there may not be too many. There is Greektown but I don't know how Greek it actually is. Still definitely some remaining Polish and Italian enclaves but not huge numbers. Nearby Dearborn is obviously the most well-known enclave with one of the largest Arab American populations in the country; over 30% Arab American (close to 50,000) and diverse groups (Chaldean/ Catholic Iraqis, Lebanese, Persians, etc); tons of Arab American restaurants, bakeries, churches, mosques, stores/signs in Arabic, etc. It's not city-proper, but definitely the largest enclave in the region. Also, some of the Detroit suburbs have Polish and Italian enclaves, but I don't remember which ones off hand.
Don't know about Memphis.
Memphis isn't as cosmopolitan as Detroit or Baltimore.
Memphis is more inline with being an overgrown small town in the delta.
For Detroit, there has been huge white flight into the suburbs, so city-proper there may not be too many. There is Greektown but I don't know how Greek it actually is. Still definitely some remaining Polish and Italian enclaves but not huge numbers. Nearby Dearborn is obviously the most well-known enclave with one of the largest Arab American populations in the country; over 30% Arab American (close to 50,000) and diverse groups (Chaldean/ Catholic Iraqis, Lebanese, Persians, etc); tons of Arab American restaurants, bakeries, churches, mosques, stores/signs in Arabic, etc. It's not city-proper, but definitely the largest enclave in the region. Also, some of the Detroit suburbs have Polish and Italian enclaves, but I don't remember which ones off hand.
Don't know about Memphis.
Hamtramck is the polish area. There is also southwest Detroit which is mostly Latino's. The far edges of the Northeast side has a bit of a Hmong community there. Parts of Oakland county like Novi is where you find the Asians. And of course Windsor is where the Canadians live lol. Downtown, Midtown, and Ann Arbor are more of the melting pots where you find every race.
Hamtramck is the polish area. There is also southwest Detroit which is mostly Latino's. The far edges of the Northeast side has a bit of a Hmong community there. Parts of Oakland county like Novi is where you find the Asians. And of course Windsor is where the Canadians live lol. Downtown, Midtown, and Ann Arbor are more of the melting pots where you find every race.
Hamtramck, a "suburb" completely surrounded by the city of Detroit, was predominately. There is still a good deal of Polish, as well as African-Americans and white hipsters, but its population is primarily composed of immigrants from countries like Iraq, Yemen, Bangladesh, and Bosnia.
Memphis is culturally trapped in it's Mid-South bubble. That wears on you quickly, the whole Memphis is the center of everything attitudes. At least Baltimore has more ethnic diversity (something I prefer). Memphis is also dirty and has a very boring downtown. Peabody Place took away some of that vibrancy when it closed. In fact, there is nearly nothing worth moving to Memphis for if you aren't tied to the city or just in love with it. The economy, jobs, amenities, education, location, weather, nearly everything is better in similarly-sized cities...
And that's a shame because Memphis will always have a piece of my heart. But other cities that were once thought of as lesser cities have passed it by, and will continue to do so if Memphis doesn't regroup itself into a more well-rounded city...
YES!!! This is SO TRUE!!! This is the most honest and objective assessment of Memphis I have EVER seen posted on City-Data, and I don't see how anyone who is truly familiar with Memphis can deny it. Especially the bolded part. You, my friend, GET IT!!!! You should post this on the Memphis (Boosters) Forum.
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YES!!! This is SO TRUE!!! This is the most honest and objective assessment of Memphis I have EVER seen posted on City-Data, and I don't see how anyone who is truly familiar with Memphis can deny it. Especially the bolded part. You, my friend, GET IT!!!! You should post this on the Memphis (Boosters) Forum.
Man listen, I'm sure I have a greater appreciation for Memphis than the average poster. It is a city, however, that has been losing esteem for decades now, and is mired in social economic, and political turmoil. This isnt to say there aren't redeeming qualities about Memphis (there are), but it isn't the same city it once was, and there is no justifiable reason to believe Memphis will pick itself up any time soon. I once said, a few years ago on here, that Memphis is the "Detroit of the South". That's not a stretch and for Memphis it may get worse before it gets better...
Man listen, I'm sure I have a greater appreciation for Memphis than the average poster. It is a city, however, that has been losing esteem for decades now, and is mired in social economic, and political turmoil. This isnt to say there aren't redeeming qualities about Memphis (there are), but it isn't the same city it once was, and there is no justifiable reason to believe Memphis will pick itself up any time soon. I once said, a few years ago on here, that Memphis is the "Detroit of the South". That's not a stretch and for Memphis it may get worse before it gets better...
YES!!! This is SO TRUE!!! This is the most honest and objective assessment of Memphis I have EVER seen posted on City-Data, and I don't see how anyone who is truly familiar with Memphis can deny it. Especially the bolded part. You, my friend, GET IT!!!! You should post this on the Memphis (Boosters) Forum.
It still has history, good architecture, and a lot more character than other Sunbelt cities. Plus, it doesn't get cold, which matters a lot to more and more Americans. The weather alone can draw people to Memphis (I know it probably gets humid in the summer, but so does Miami and Atlanta).
After reading some of the back-issues/threads on the Memphis forum, it seems that they have 3 or 4 constantly overly-positive boosters that attempt to discredit any observation of Memphis that doesn't paint a rosy picture. It's very odd. Maybe they're paid by the chamber? Memphis is a big, small town in many respects. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not some kind of leading proactive southern city - not yet.
In COL, I would say Memphis, but culturally speaking, maybe Baltimore simply because of its access to the DC and that corridor..in education, amenities, travel, economically.
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