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View Poll Results: which is better
Richmond 68 54.40%
Baltimore 57 45.60%
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:18 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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Which would you choose?
Don't know, because I've never visited Richmond. Politically, I'd take MD over VA. But for a place to live, I'd go for smaller & quieter (even when I was young, I wasn't interested in nightlife). But anyway it's the OP's preferences that matter here, not mine.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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None of the metros listed are "hurting," but most cities are with the 3.7-4.6% unemployment range; Pittsburgh is the only metro over 5%. Also, Baltimore's labor force is growing faster in absolute numbers than some metros twice its size. Economically, the Baltimore area is very healthy. I think some of much of the population loss that the city recently experienced is due to gentrification. That seems to be the only justification since the Baltimore City is actually growing in every other metric.
Household size in Baltimore decreased at full 2% in the 2016 American Community Survey. There is no way that building 2,500 to 3,000 new housing units per year can keep up with that kind of very very rapid decline in household size. At that rate, Baltimore will drop well below 600K by the end of the decade but it will also have house household sizes matching Boston, DC, San Francisco and other booming cities. Personally, I'm having trouble making sense of what the Census is telling us.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Household size in Baltimore decreased at full 2% in the 2016 American Community Survey. There is no way that building 2,500 to 3,000 new housing units per year can keep up with that kind of very very rapid decline in household size. At that rate, Baltimore will drop well below 600K by the end of the decade but it will also have house household sizes matching Boston, DC, San Francisco and other booming cities. Personally, I'm having trouble making sense of what the Census is telling us.
I find it odd as well. Another puzzling aspect of it is that with all this development going on, none of it is sitting with high vacancy rates. Downtown alone appears to be growing faster than other areas are shrinking, but yet the numbers don't make sense.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Don't know, because I've never visited Richmond. Politically, I'd take MD over VA. But for a place to live, I'd go for smaller & quieter (even when I was young, I wasn't interested in nightlife). But anyway it's the OP's preferences that matter here, not mine.
For me, I didn't like how small it was. However, I understand that may be appealing to those who are tired of large cities. I also did not feel safe in some areas. Both cities could work on improving the quality of life for lower income residents.
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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For me, I didn't like how small it was. However, I understand that may be appealing to those who are tired of large cities. I also did not feel safe in some areas. Both cities could work on improving the quality of life for lower income residents.
How does the city do that?
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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i mean obviously bmore is bigger so some will automatically equate that with being better, but ive seen no evidence that bmore is the better city in terms of actual quality of life. the two are on different trajectories in 2017; rich is improving whle bmore seems to be i creasingly similar to a post-industrial midwest ishhole than an east coast city (aside from the rowhouses of course).

bmore has pro sports teams and (i assume) direct flights to cali. otherwise i dont see where bmore is that much better in the least.
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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i mean obviously bmore is bigger so some will automatically equate that with being better, but ive seen no evidence that bmore is the better city in terms of actual quality of life. the two are on different trajectories in 2017; rich is improving whle bmore seems to be i creasingly similar to a post-industrial midwest ishhole than an east coast city (aside from the rowhouses of course).

bmore has pro sports teams and (i assume) direct flights to cali. otherwise i dont see where bmore is that much better in the least.
Baltimore is doing really well, And really bad at the same time. The negatives have started to outweigh the positives. It's really frustrating that the city as a whole can't get out of its own way.
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:19 AM
 
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Someone mentioned that the James is not a selling point for Richmond. What a joke. What other city has a whitewater river with Class III-IV rapids flowing through it? Not to mention, the river has become the national example for how to do restoration properly -- and there are improvements every year. Meanwhile, Baltimore ignored their consent decree to clean up the harbor for 18 years. Only now, after being sued by the EPA are they attempting to turn things around. Meanwhile the Richmond mayor allocated 21 million dollars over the next few years for more restoration activities around the James River park system. I have lived in Baltimore, the level of dysfunction is unbelievable but it does have potential. As things stand now, Richmond is the better of the two.
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Old 03-29-2019, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Someone mentioned that the James is not a selling point for Richmond. What a joke. What other city has a whitewater river with Class III-IV rapids flowing through it? Not to mention, the river has become the national example for how to do restoration properly -- and there are improvements every year. Meanwhile, Baltimore ignored their consent decree to clean up the harbor for 18 years. Only now, after being sued by the EPA are they attempting to turn things around. Meanwhile the Richmond mayor allocated 21 million dollars over the next few years for more restoration activities around the James River park system. I have lived in Baltimore, the level of dysfunction is unbelievable but it does have potential. As things stand now, Richmond is the better of the two.
How is Richmond better based solely on the River park system?
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:01 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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How is Richmond better based solely on the River park system?
He didn't say based solely on the river. But he's lived in both, so I'd say he's allowed to take whatever perspective he wants...

Funny thing is if he said Baltimore was better for any reason you wouldn't question a damn thing lol...
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