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This gets old especially as all of Boston Proper alone.... Fits into just Chicago's North side.... Chicago and Philadelphia still have good middle-class neighborhoods
Boston proper with like (48 sq miles) of land by only removing the miles over water. SO THAT IS MERELY (1/5 the size of Chicago).
*** Perhaps many of you will be able to read the full link below just out from "Crain's Chicago Business".... I cannot as I have reached my free view limits.
April 07, 2022
Title: Even with fast-rising prices, homes more affordable in most of Chicago area.
All I can read ...
- Two separate reports show that it's easier to afford a home now than it has been historically, although with interest rates going up that could change quickly.
- Despite a rapid run-up in prices in 2021that has shrink affordability across the country, homes in much of the "CHICAGO AREA ARE - EASIER TO AFFORD" than they have been historically.
ALL I DID WITH the below REDFIN REAL ESTATE - was punch in Chicago's Northwest side I lived.... though it actually does not include the farthest Northwest parts from Jefferson Park thru Norwood Park and Edison Park areas.... not sure why as I did live there. Anyway these neighborhoods are areas that are just outside of Gentrifying Logan Square as areas west of there primarily.
These areas are not seen as bad or declined. STANDARD CHICAGO STYLES OF HOMES from mostly the 1920s thru 1950s built neighborhoods. Some can be early 60s.
- YOU WILL NOT FIND ROW-HOMES on the Northwest side FILTER ON FOR JUST HOUSES OR TOWNHOMES
- 150 homes for sale came up in this region. Few will have any HOA....
*** REDFIN Homes/Townhouse for sale NOW.... On Chicago's Northwest side minus its further North Northwest neighborhoods where I lived. Redfin must list them separately?
Link as many in the $400,000 thru $500,000 price range, some in the $200,000 to $300.000 with many still under $400,000. THESE ARE NOT HOODS. Most SOLID homes some fully renovated to open floor plans some not. Some may have lower taxes if one owner for a long time and some more currently higher if fully renovated.
I will take the Ginger(bread) Tudor here..... Nice area Nice home... always had a fondness for the Gingerbreads. Not a ton of them in Chicago, but you will find them among the bungalows and some whole blocks of them.
This one looks totally move-in complete condition. Full finished basement. Just they do have that short 2nd floor where the roof slopes. Yard is good size just not landscaped. 2.5 car garage and still parking for 3.5 cars. NOT BAD for the PRICE.... built 1940.
3041 N Nordica Ave, Chicago, IL 60634 - 4 beds/3 baths. Full finished basement and 1800 sq. ft. 1st and 2nd fl. Good Size City Yard and 2.5 car garage in the alley+. Standard Chicago front lawn.
$415,000
So what do you think of this GINGERBREAD? What if it was in Boston.
Chicago and the Chicagoland area as a whole are significantly bigger than the Boston area.
- Chicago has a more sophisticated food scene as well as better architecture.
- Chicago has very unique, diverse, and well-defined neighborhoods whereas Boston’s neighborhoods can blend together sometimes.
- You factor in living expenses, Chicago wins.
- Boston is a more expensive city than Chicago but same opportunity for employment.
- It is better to live in Chicago than Boston when you factor in the expenses and things to do.
- It is way cheaper in Chicago than Boston, yet you get plenty of opportunities to work and earn.
- Boston is 89 square miles. But the city’s land area is just (48 square miles), which is about "one-fifth the size of Chicago".
- Chicago averages 35.1 inches of snow per year. Boston averages 48.1 inches of snow per year.
- The cost of living in Boston, MA is 31.3% higher than in Chicago, IL. You would have to earn a salary of $78,796 to maintain your current standard of living.
- Employers in Boston typically pay 6.2% more than employers in Chicago.
What is the bad part of Boston?
Charlestown
For Charlestown, Boston crime, the majority of the crime is shootings and drug dealing, especially at the eastern end. This makes it one of the bad neighborhoods in Boston. Property crime, though better than other neighborhoods, still stands out at 1,632 for every 100,000 residents.
- Boston sees 655 violent crimes per 100,000, making the city less safe than 83% of US cities.
- The violent crime rate in Boston is nearly double the national violent crime rate.
- People in Boston have a 1 out of 153 chance of becoming a victim of crime, compared to a 1 in 296 in the state of Massachusetts.
In the media one will hears just waaaay more on Chicago over homicides then a Boston even gets. True far less homicides in Boston. OTHER CRIME well .... still show plenty of all other crime not homicides. True a much smaller city more fully gentrified does help overall crime, but raises cost.
Most locals know there are plenty of areas they can go on weekends to play. Wisconsin is big on their radar and if one adds a hour longer to get there.... it is not a deal breaker.
For a shoreline more as New England.... one may have to go further North on the Great Lakes where rocky coastal areas are reminiscent to the New England Coast including Northern Michigan with quaint towns and light houses. Quaint smaller resort touristy towns thru the Midwest also. Coastal Lake Michigan Chicago sits on is public parks harbors and beaches. Great asset in its own right.
* * This video by a Foreign born Real Estate sales person FROM BOSTON.
She put out this video a couple months ago. I used it as the newest I found. Seems pretty fair and not many views and a few replies will lessen Chi. The video maker did not make the video to rip any city and does not use her real estate links in it.
Garfield Park, englewood and Austin each individually has more homicides than Metropolitan Boston. All 5 million people. It has nothing to do with the city Limits. By Chicago Standards there really are no bad neighborhoods in Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Revere, Malden, Everett, Quincy, Brookline Etc
Employers in Boston do not pay 6.2% more then Chicago one. Bostonians make 26% more than Chicagoans.
According to this website all 3 cities more or less have proportional COL to incomes. With Philly being the best, followed by Boston then Chicago. But it’s only a couple thousand either way.
Garfield Park, englewood and Austin each individually has more homicides than Metropolitan Boston. All 5 million people. It has nothing to do with the city Limits. By Chicago Standards there really are no bad neighborhoods in Boston, Cambridge, Chelsea, Revere, Malden, Everett, Quincy, Brookline Etc
Employers in Boston do not pay 6.2% more then Chicago one. Bostonians make 26% more than Chicagoans.
According to this website all 3 cities more or less have proportional COL to incomes. With Philly being the best, followed by Boston then Chicago. But it’s only a couple thousand either way.
Its a posse. But what of the HOMES IN CHICAGO'S NORTHWESTSIDE.
Good stock. Hey again. All Boston Proper FITS into Chicago's Northside. Do not need to even count East or West Garfield or Englewood. One day though .... lots of land to infill and gentrify AS NEEDED. Plenty around downtown. West Loop the "IT" area currently even in office space getting built surprisingly.
West Garfield has a lot of solid housing too as Greystones. Many bought up by speculators and rented till it gentrifies.
Ahhhh my chosen "GINGERBREAD". I like her. She is pretty. She pulls at my heartstring.....
$415,000 built 1940.
1800 sq ft + the full finished basement
2.5 car garage and good size yard.
She seems updated throughout. Great job on the basement.
Good sale history given AND LOTS OF PICTURES ...
Its a posse. But what of the HOMES IN CHICAGO'S NORTHWESTSIDE.
Good stock. Hey again. All Boston Proper FITS into Chicago's Northside. Do not need to even count East or West Garfield or Englewood. One day though .... lots of land to infill and gentrify AS NEEDED. Plenty around downtown. West Loop the "IT" area currently even in office space getting built surprisingly.
West Garfield has a lot of solid housing too as Greystones. Many bought ip by speculators and rened till it gentrifies.
Ahhhh my chosen "GINGERBREAD". I like her. She is pretty. She pulls at my heartstring.....
$415,000 built 1940.
1800 sq ft + the full finished basement
2.5 car garage and good size yard.
She seems updated throughout. Great job on the basement.
Can Chicago fit within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, because Austin, Humboldt park and Garfield park combined have more homicides than the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
That has a huge impact of median everything because a big swath of the city is just bad.
Once again median incomes are 26% higher in Boston and COL is 23% higher. So Chicago while more affordable on the same salary. You’re not getting paid the same.
Can Chicago fit within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, because Austin, Humboldt park and Garfield park combined have more homicides than the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
That has a huge impact of median everything because a big swath of the city is just bad.
Once again median incomes are 26% higher in Boston and COL is 23% higher. So Chicago while more affordable on the same salary. You’re not getting paid the same.
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Stay cool. There is the crime thread you can vent in.
Sorry you did not like my links as to prove aspects of Chicago cheaper with great housing stock...
Just think.... you are young. Chicago will have plenty of areas to gentrify. Boston will have 0 in coming years.
Maybe you have your home already there in Boston? Great if you do.
Both cities you may need a partner/spouse to help with bills. Helps for sure. You can surely move to more rural small town Mass. too.
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Stay cool. There is the crime thread you can vent in.
Sorry you did not like my links as to prove aspects of Chicago cheaper with great housing stock...
Just think.... you are young. Chicago will have plenty of areas to gentrify. Boston will have 0 in coming years.
Maybe you have your home already there in Boston? Great if you do.
Both cities you may need a partner/spouse to help with bills. Helps for sure. You can surely move to more rural small town Mass. too.
You are being thin-skinned and taking things entirely too personally here, relax.
Once chi-town said Charlestown as the bad part of Boston in a serious tone ..he lost me. And bosotns neighborhoods blend together and chicagos don’t? Really?
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Chicago and Philadelphia still have good middle-class neighborhoods 
I cannot as I have reached my free view limits.
