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5.Dallas- $511 B
6.Philadelphia- $505 B
7. Houston- $485 B
8.SF- $470 B
Gave Philadelphia back their satellite micro regionsin Trenton + Allentown.
Allentown PA - $42.7 B
Trenton NJ- $31.2 B
Allentown is over 100 miles to NYC and virtually no affiliation. Dozens of state/county/interstate roads and thorofares directly connect Allentown with Philly region.
Trenton to Philly seperated by 200 foot wide Delaware River . Trenon/Philly One continuous region for sure.
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Originally Posted by nephi215
Stop complaining. Trenton (mercer county) is not "officially" part of the Philly MSA. Deal with it.
He's right, though, at least partially. While I can see Trenton/Mercer going for NYC, since there's heavy pull in the northern portion, the fact that Allentown isn't counted to Philly is the shaft of the century. It's ridiculous, really. The Lehigh Valley has absolutely nowhere near the cultural link to NYC as it does to Philly. It's minor league team named itself the Cheesesteaks for goodness sakes. Philly is the only metro in th country to be shortchanged in this manner.
He's right, though, at least partially. While I can see Trenton/Mercer going for NYC, since there's heavy pull in the northern portion, the fact that Allentown isn't counted to Philly is the shaft of the century. It's ridiculous, really. The Lehigh Valley has absolutely nowhere near the cultural link to NYC as it does to Philly. It's minor league team named itself the Cheesesteaks for goodness sakes. Philly is the only metro in th country to be shortchanged in this manner.
You could stretch it to say Philly is the 4th largest metro all things being equal. Dallas,Houston metroes are 10,000 sq. miles plus. Philadelphia is shoe horned at under 5 M sq miles. Similar parameters for Philly you would add Lancaster,Allentown,Trenton,Dover,Atlantic City/Cape May etc etc.. Nipping at Chicagos heels.
Mercer county is not in the N Y Metro ,it is it's own Metro , although it is in the N.Y. CSA based on commuters into the N.Y. Metro not the city it self . Their are many more important metrics that tie Mercer County to Philadelphia Metro mainly commerce and in that regard . Mercer and Bucks counties are tied very close together in terms of news media and shopping family .Another major connection is health care ie Childrens Hospital , Penn Medicine and Jefferson all have and continuing expansion into central Jersey . I don't know what connects people together more a few thousand commuters or where people get heath care and commerce .
You could stretch it to say Philly is the 4th largest metro all things being equal. Dallas,Houston metroes are 10,000 sq. miles plus. Philadelphia is shoe horned at under 5 M sq miles. Similar parameters for Philly you would add Lancaster,Allentown,Trenton,Dover,Atlantic City/Cape May etc etc.. Nipping at Chicagos heels.
The reason different metros are different sized is that they don't each have the same pull. Philadelphia is smaller than DFW for reasons be that both benefit and harm it.
The reason different metros are different sized is that they don't each have the same pull. Philadelphia is smaller than DFW for reasons be that both benefit and harm it.
The E-W boundaries of Dallas are about to 120 miles apart. N-S bundaries 70 Miles . Please explain to me how the 2 furthest points in metro Dallas(say NE -SW points) which would be 190 miles apart have a bigger connection than Philadlephia + Trenton which are about 15 miles apart? Preposterous
Trenton NJ/ SE PA border has a population density of around 11,000 ppsq mi. This is a very dense urban connection that for whatever reason doesnt exist in regards to arguments for metro Philly.
The distance between Philly-Trenton is approximately 50% closer than Dallas- Fort Worth.
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