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TBH, does any city really have much of an Irish scene outside of NYC? And by "scene" I mean a neighborhood where you can pick up a copy of the Irish Voice and be surrounded by people who have some meaningful connection to Ireland? Yonkers and the North Bronx have a few areas like this, but I suspect these might be the only ones in the entire country.
Havertown/Drexel Hill and Upper Darby, PA probably come closest. Also Quincy MA. In the Philly area many of the illegal Irish live in Upper Darby/Havertown and Roxborough in the city. But-none of these areas have the presence that is in Woodlawn/Riverdale/Kingsbridge in the Bronx and Yonkers along McLean Ave.
Today I'd rank them- NYC, Boston, Philly and a distant Chicago.
Those numbers were for the Pittsburgh metro. German is the most common ancestry in every Pennsylvania county with the exception of Philadelphia (African American), Delaware (Irish), Chester (Irish) and Luzerne (Irish).
Ughm, wrong. Chester is German, Luzerne is polish. Delaware is the only Irish majority in the Philadelphia area. Susquehanna and Bradford counties are English majority, and well as Greene in the Pittsburgh area. Lackawanna (Scranton) is majority Irish as well.
Pittsburgh has some Irish bars, and even Irish private clubs (I happened to be invited to one the other week, and met Conor Lamb's uncles). But it doesn't have Irish neighborhoods any longer. AFAIK Garfield was the last one, but it lost most of its Irish population during the white flight era of the 20th century. Most of the white population in Garfield now is artists and hipsters.
Back in 2012, a local blogger did this map...
The red tract is Ingram, a first ring suburb/streetcar suburb to the immediate west of Pittsburgh. There's not much of a business district to speak of any longer, so there's certainly no Irish businesses.
Carnegie/Craftom/Ingram (actually the whole Chartiers Valley for that matter outside of Heidelberg) is the most Irish area of Pittsburgh.
Carnegie doesn't look especially Irish on that map. Of course it has a larger, but not gigantic, black population (around 7%) which would depress its Irish percentage ever so slightly compared to Crafton or Ingram.
Chicago does the Chicago river fro a few blocks green and 200,000 line the river walk and bridges. The Parades now go from the river through its lakefront parks with plenty of room to view as not to have to close major Loop thoroughfares.
- Chicago is consistently named one of the best cities for St. Patrick’s Day parties, and was voted best in the country this year by WalletHub for its combination of traditions, cost and accessibility. Nearly 800,000 people are expected to line the parade route, along with around 200,000 spectators as the Chicago River gets dyed.
chicago makes a huge deal of st patricks day, but to a significant degree it's just midwest white people that want an excuse to binge-drink. outside of the far southwest corner of the city there's not much of an irish presence (at least in terms of neighborhoods and enclaves ) here at all.
Ughm, wrong. Chester is German, Luzerne is polish. Delaware is the only Irish majority in the Philadelphia area. Susquehanna and Bradford counties are English majority, and well as Greene in the Pittsburgh area. Lackawanna (Scranton) is majority Irish as well.
chicago makes a huge deal of st patricks day, but to a significant degree it's just midwest white people that want an excuse to binge-drink. outside of the far southwest corner of the city there's not much of an irish presence (at least in terms of neighborhoods and enclaves ) here at all.
Midwest white people? Yeah, that pretty much describes Irish people in Chicago...
Midwest white people? Yeah, that pretty much describes Irish people in Chicago...
How else would you describe them then? How are the irish here distinct? Why is there not a commonly known image of them here similr to a Boston "sully"? Are you also implying that the crowds are actually mostly irish? :rolleyes stay in the suburbs today please.
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