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It's my understanding that metro St. Louis isn't seeing a decline in its black population as a whole. The city is, but it would appear that most are merely moving to the suburbs when they leave.
I could be wrong though.
That is what I see and read. I believe the actual msa percentage is increasing slightly while the city is remaining the same. We are not seeing the exodus like some who don't know proclaim or like our rust belt peers and Chicago.
Many Blacks are leaving north city for north county with a few trickling south into Meacham Park, Maplewood and Rock Hill I believe.
The story of St. Louis is far deeper than many forumers realise. When people reference online reading and never really get to know St Louis, I try not to respond.
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That is what I see and read. I believe the actual msa percentage is increasing slightly while the city is remaining the same. We are not seeing the exodus like some who don't know proclaim or like our rust belt peers and Chicago.
Many Blacks are leaving north city for north county with a few trickling south into Meacham Park, Maplewood and Rock Hill I believe.
The story of St. Louis is far deeper than many forumers realise. When people reference online reading and never really get to know St Louis, I try not to respond.
City of St. Louis (310k)was at 51% Black in 2000. 48% Black in 2010. 47% Black 2018 estimates. Blacks are still the largest group but much of the statistical change is due to substantial increase in mostly Asian by 48% and other non White groups moving into the city limits increasing their share of the pie. The White population maintains at 43%
St Louis County. (1million) is 23% Black most recent estimates. In 2000 it was 19% Black.
Last edited by mjtinmemphis; 07-07-2018 at 10:09 PM..
That is what I see and read. I believe the actual msa percentage is increasing slightly while the city is remaining the same. We are not seeing the exodus like some who don't know proclaim or like our rust belt peers and Chicago.
Many Blacks are leaving north city for north county with a few trickling south into Meacham Park, Maplewood and Rock Hill I believe.
The story of St. Louis is far deeper than many forumers realise. When people reference online reading and never really get to know St Louis, I try not to respond.
They're facts. Ignoring them doesn't make them untrue.
They're facts. Ignoring them doesn't make them untrue.
They may be facts, but it doesn't mean they tell the entire story.
That said, St. Louis seems to be more like Chicago in this regard in that Blacks are bolting for the suburbs and other metro areas due to disinvestment and other longstanding issues in their neighborhoods and less like more expensive cities where gentrification is the primary culprit when it comes to Black population loss.
They may be facts, but it doesn't mean they tell the entire story.
That said, St. Louis seems to be more like Chicago in this regard in that Blacks are bolting for the suburbs and other metro areas due to disinvestment and other longstanding issues in their neighborhoods and less like more expensive cities where gentrification is the primary culprit when it comes to Black population loss.
The biggest difference between Chicago and St. Louis is the metro St. Louis isn't loosing the Black population. Its stagnant but not loosing. The best reference online is The New Metro Minority Map by Brookings. New Orleans, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and Detroit had the largest decrease in Black population. St Louis is noted as having a less than 50k increase. Another point of reference is basic census data showing the only jurisdiction in St. Louis msa that lost Black population is St. Louis city. Everyone else had slight gains with St. Louis county (the largest jurisdiction with 1 million people)having the largest increase by 18%.
Last edited by mjtinmemphis; 07-08-2018 at 06:43 PM..
Another thing to look at when assessing the economic vitality of the area is poverty income and unemployment.
St. Louis MSA
Median Income 59,780
Poverty Rate 11.4%
Property Value 169,200
Unemployment Rate 3.3%
Kansas City MSA
Median Income 61,385
Poverty Rate 10.9%
Property Value 173,900
Unemployment Rate 3.6%
Atlanta MSA
Median Income 62,613
Poverty Rate 13.1%
Property Value 197,700
Unemployment Rate 3.4%
They are all pretty good in their own way. Atlanta has come a long way in the past 24 months with unemployment. The poverty rate isn't good for an area that boasts itself as prosperous.
They are all pretty good in their own way. Atlanta has come a long way in the past 24 months with unemployment. The poverty rate isn't good for an area that boasts itself as prosperous.
Actually the poverty rate isn't all that bad for a metro area with such a large Black population.
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