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Cost of living seems in these two cities seem to be nearly identical these days, as cost of housing in Portland has gone up over 40% the last 6 years! I am curious what others on this forum thinks is a better value in 2018. Where would you rather live?
Factors to consider are:
Career opportunities
public tranportation
nightlife
cultural amenities
walkability
cleanliness
weather
crime
cultural diversity
architecture
dining scene
friendliness
progressive thinking
Chicago mops the floor with Portland. But it's midwestern location, weather, corruption, and crime rate make it much less attractive than Portland IMO.
I've read some articles recently, wherein it's indicted that Portland's downtown area has many problems. I lived in Chicago for years, and was never impacted by crime. Chicago's downtown......as Wizard said, mops the floor with Portland. Please don't try to minimize what I read about Portland's downtown problems, they're real. Also, in Chicago, you're very unlikely to be impacted by the crime, unless you are involved in gang activity, drug activity, and live in parts of the city where you know you shouldn't.
Yeah, I think given the criteria it is a pretty easy sweep. I think a way to make the two more competitive would be a "livability" comparison using criteria where the two are more competitive (i.e. activities both urban and outdoors, scenery, etc.)
Career opportunities: Chicago
public tranportation: Chicago
nightlife: Chicago
cultural amenities: Chicago
walkability: Chicago, although Portland packs a pretty big punch in many of its neighborhoods
cleanliness: Portland
weather: Subjective to taste; I've heard particularly bad things about Chicago winters, but I'll still take Chicago's four seasons
crime: Portland
cultural diversity: Chicago
architecture: Chicago
dining scene: Chicago
friendliness: subjective, I met both friendly and unfriendly in both cities; I prefer the Midwest to West Coast friendly vibe, so I'll go with Chicago
progressive thinking: Portland
Career opportunities: Chicago
public tranportation: Chicago
nightlife: Chicago
cultural amenities: Chicago
walkability: Chicago, although Portland packs a pretty big punch in many of its neighborhoods
cleanliness: Chicago
weather: Portland
crime: Portland
cultural diversity: Chicago
architecture: Chicago
dining scene: Chicago
friendliness: Chicago
progressive thinking: Portland
I've read some articles recently, wherein it's indicted that Portland's downtown area has many problems. I lived in Chicago for years, and was never impacted by crime. Chicago's downtown......as Wizard said, mops the floor with Portland. Please don't try to minimize what I read about Portland's downtown problems, they're real. Also, in Chicago, you're very unlikely to be impacted by the crime, unless you are involved in gang activity, drug activity, and live in parts of the city where you know you shouldn't.
The only thing wrong with Portland is homeless people addicted to needle drugs.
Chicago's crime is insane. Wildings in the beaches, flash mobs downtown, weekly police shootings, there is even a blog called "crime in boystown", because ghetto people are taking the CTA to the nice northside, in order to destroy the nice parts of the city. Police Union is fighting to get rid od the residency requirement, as cops do not want to live there.
Let's not pretend Chicago is safe like West LA or Manhattan. It is very dangerous, even in Logan Square!
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