Anyone here ever lived in Atlanta and Chicago? (market, size, parks)

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by grin123

Strictly talking about the city. Cant compare the city of Chicago to the mass suburbia of Atlanta. Just comparing city limits.

I think it's pretty fair to compare metro to metro because the city of Atlanta is only under 500,000 while Chicago city pop. is over 2.6 mil. Atlanta is still the more affordable metro than Chicago is.

[SonySegaTendo617]

Originally Posted by grin123

Strictly talking about the city. Cant compare the city of Chicago to the mass suburbia of Atlanta. Just comparing city limits.

Atlanta still does have a lot of very urban neighborhoods, that's for sure. And Chicago does also have some outer neighborhoods that have a suburban-lite feel to them too, such as Sauganash and Edgebrook. Not to say those neighborhoods are bad(for sure, they aren't), but you can find neighborhoods that are more urbanized or suburbanized in both Chicago and Atlanta.

And I don't think I'd stereotype everything outside of Atlanta city limits, as suburban. Decatur(GA) has an Evanston or Oak Park-like feel, to it. And some of the downtowns outside Atlanta do have some decent downtowns with a lot of businesses, such as Tucker, College Park, and Marietta. I do wish there was more transit and that it was less car-centric, but of course we should remember a lot of the Atlanta area was only built up post-World War II. Although this is a problem throughout the US(that the development that was done, was too car centric), and even in a lot of parts of suburban Chicago as well.

[grin123]

Originally Posted by SonySegaTendo617

Atlanta still does have a lot of very urban neighborhoods, that's for sure. And Chicago does also have some outer neighborhoods that have a suburban-lite feel to them too, such as Sauganash and Edgebrook. Not to say those neighborhoods are bad(for sure, they aren't), but you can find neighborhoods that are more urbanized or suburbanized in both Chicago and Atlanta.

And I don't think I'd stereotype everything outside of Atlanta city limits, as suburban. Decatur(GA) has an Evanston or Oak Park-like feel, to it. And some of the downtowns outside Atlanta do have some decent downtowns with a lot of businesses, such as Tucker, College Park, and Marietta. I do wish there was more transit and that it was less car-centric, but of course we should remember a lot of the Atlanta area was only built up post-World War II. Although this is a problem throughout the US(that the development that was done, was too car centric), and even in a lot of parts of suburban Chicago as well.

What neighborhoods would you count as "very urban" lol? Not counting downtown/midtown/buckhead of course. Almost every Atlanta neighborhood looks the same with a couple apartment complexes than a bunch of single family homes. Evanston is more urban than any Atlanta neighborhood and its a suburb lmao. Same with Oak Park. The thing I like about Chicago that most American cities lack is the neighborhood diversity. Atlanta doesnt have that.



I do agree tho that Decatur is like Evanston/Oak Park. Decatur has a better downtown than Atlanta in my opinion. All three are examples of "street car suburbs".


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[austiNati]

Originally Posted by grin123

What neighborhoods would you count as "very urban" lol? Not counting downtown/midtown/buckhead of course. Almost every Atlanta neighborhood looks the same with a couple apartment complexes than a bunch of single family homes. Evanston is more urban than any Atlanta neighborhood and its a suburb lmao. Same with Oak Park. The thing I like about Chicago that most American cities lack is the neighborhood diversity. Atlanta doesnt have that.



I do agree tho that Decatur is like Evanston/Oak Park. Decatur has a better downtown than Atlanta in my opinion. All three are examples of "street car suburbs".


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Outside of Downtown, Midtown, and Buckhead, would you say the stretch of Highland running from downtown - NE is "typical" ATL urbanity?

I agree, Evanston is quite built up, with arguably better transit than ATL. I like what Atlanta is doing as far infill and the beltline, but their more human scaled neighborhoods are far separated from one another (East Atlanta, Little 5 Points, 4th Ward). Highland ave seems to have the most consistent mixed used/street front development.

[ShenardL]

Originally Posted by grin123

Strictly talking about the city. Cant compare the city of Chicago to the mass suburbia of Atlanta. Just comparing city limits.

Well if you live in midtown Atlanta like I did, you don't need a car. You have access to downtown, the airport, buckhead, sandy springs, and ethnic food of Buford Highway in Chamblee and Doraville via marta rail.

[Gaylord_Focker]

Originally Posted by ShenardL

Well if you live in midtown Atlanta like I did, you don't need a car. You have access to downtown, the airport, buckhead, sandy springs, and ethnic food of Buford Highway in Chamblee and Doraville via marta rail.

But that's downtown or midtown any city right? Even Jacksonville and OKC?

[grin123]

Originally Posted by Gaylord_Focker

But that's downtown or midtown any city right? Even Jacksonville and OKC?

Exactly lmao less than 10% of the metro pop lives in city limits. His perspective is very skewed and does not represent the majority of what metro atliens have to deal with.

[Gaylord_Focker]

Originally Posted by grin123

Exactly lmao less than 10% of the metro pop lives in city limits. His perspective is very skewed and does not represent the majority of what metro atliens have to deal with.

And then what % of that lives in Midtown or Buckhead?

Same with a place like Dallas. Dallasites like to exclude their suburbs......until they want to talk about population and economic growth. Then it's DFW is growing like crazy.

[Citykid3785]

Originally Posted by RisingAurvandil

I like the winter in Atlanta more, and the cost-of-living is probably still a bit lower there.

But it will never be able to match one of the those sunny weekends, flying down Lakeshore in a droptop. Waves rolling onto the beaches, the rumbling of the El in the distance. The ethnic enclaves, the density, the infamous characters. Chicago evokes such a visceral feeling. Not every city can do that.

COL is higher in Atlanta than Chicago, but overall fairly comparable

[ShenardL]

Originally Posted by Gaylord_Focker

But that's downtown or midtown any city right? Even Jacksonville and OKC?

Is it? I know people that live in downtown Jacksonville and they don't live car-free. I don't know about Oklahoma city. It's not downtown "any city." You could live in many of those downtowns but would need to take an Uber to many areas you would want to visit, but in Midtown you could do so without ever taking an Uber.