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Old 09-20-2022, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I know what you're driving at and you have a point.

For some reason though, and I have mentioned this before on this site, pride in the south is seen as acceptable whereas pride in the north is seen as snobbish, undesirable, and "no fun allowed". For whatever reason, this has gone so deep that parts of the north try their best to claim to be a lost part of Dixieland. Parts of PA, Ohio, Indiana, even parts of NY and Michigan all have people glued to the idea of being southern or more like the south.

There is NO shame in being a proud northerner. Yes, northern culture has its blemishes, but so does southern culture!

Along these same lines, a lot of people attribute things to the south that are not exclusively southern. Including but not limited to just about all American food. Even going so far as to say CORN is a southern staple, when that could not be any further from the truth. It is simply an AMERICAN staple.

Frankly, southern culture has as much elitism as northern culture does. It just comes off in a different way.

There is nothing wrong with being from the north.
The reason why the north has less pride has to do with the fact that a big amount of current inhabitants in the north, particularly northeast, came here after the Civil War. Even the whites. Most whites here don't *really* have a connection with the history of this country pre-civil war, unlike the whites and blacks in the South.
I think as you move westwards you'd encounter more people with heritage dating to the North and the Union.
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Old 09-20-2022, 03:30 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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The reason why the north has less pride has to do with the fact that a big amount of current inhabitants in the north, particularly northeast, came here after the Civil War. Even the whites. Most whites here don't *really* have a connection with the history of this country pre-civil war, unlike the whites and blacks in the South.
I think as you move westwards you'd encounter more people with heritage dating to the North and the Union.
I think it depends on how you classify the "North", but there are several areas in the "North" that have strong connections to Civil War history. It's mainly in the places that contributed a lot to the war like Massachusetts, New York, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

Of course, it's of a different nature when compared to the South. There you have one set of people that can't just get over the fact that they lost the war and another set of people from whom it defined them as a people. Of course, just like the North, the major cities are so full of transplants now that this is a trope that you really only see in rural areas.
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Old 09-20-2022, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I know this is an old post, but I agree that it is a kind of unusual question. New England is part of the Northeast, and Minnesota is part of The North. But unsure why Minnesota is the only Northern Great Plains state, and not sure why The Pacific Coast is being lumped in with the North???

I don’t know how to answer the question. Those are all distinct cultures.
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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I know this is an old post, but I agree that it is a kind of unusual question. New England is part of the Northeast, and Minnesota is part of The North. But unsure why Minnesota is the only Northern Great Plains state, and not sure why The Pacific Coast is being lumped in with the North???

I don’t know how to answer the question. Those are all distinct cultures.
And even within the provinces, cultures are radically different. People from Montreal are not at all like people from Saguenay, for instance.
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Old 09-21-2022, 12:33 AM
 
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The South.
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