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Old 08-04-2019, 11:19 PM
 
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Those were people losing their life....that’s not putting in work. Dude don’t glorify degenerate behavior.
That was my point....The kids today was shooting guns on camera just to show it off on Facebook or YouTube..
They all wanted to be like Gucci mane and Waka Flocka and it just so happen to blow up on a mainstream level for Chief Keef...It was the Atlanta trap scene version of Chicago...


But In L.A,The gang violence was never glorified for Instagram likes....It was a real warzone that really captivated across major cities in America...Bloods and CRIPS are everywhere today....Your favorite rapper is probably a Blood or Crip and that just shows the impact and Influence that Los Angeles gangs had during it's peak...You throw in the L.A riots and the Death of hip hop's 2 biggest rap stars and there's literally no comparison to the Drill scene vs L.A gangsta rap...

Rest in peace to all who lost their lives though...
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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But In L.A,The gang violence was never glorified for Instagram likes....
That's because there were no instagram at the time... But it was glorified, just listen to the gangsta rap lyrics...
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Austin is at 24.
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Old 08-05-2019, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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A man was discovered today with gunshot wounds on the west side ( Bradley & Long).

Jackson, MS - 58 / 35.3
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:17 PM
 
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That was my point....The kids today was shooting guns on camera just to show it off on Facebook or YouTube..
They all wanted to be like Gucci mane and Waka Flocka and it just so happen to blow up on a mainstream level for Chief Keef...It was the Atlanta trap scene version of Chicago...


But In L.A,The gang violence was never glorified for Instagram likes....It was a real warzone that really captivated across major cities in America...Bloods and CRIPS are everywhere today....Your favorite rapper is probably a Blood or Crip and that just shows the impact and Influence that Los Angeles gangs had during it's peak...You throw in the L.A riots and the Death of hip hop's 2 biggest rap stars and there's literally no comparison to the Drill scene vs L.A gangsta rap...

Rest in peace to all who lost their lives though...
Drill was defenitely influenced by Trap as every genre is influenced to a degree but it's unique with the beats, videos, lyrical content, lingo, fashion and absolute violent culture. Drill has influened many rappers and taken over Brooklyn got NY switchin' the game all up. All kind of rappers bringing out the guns in videos, throwing up the gang, got the squad in the back talking 'bout the opps, catchin you lackin, smokin a pack, thots, and on and on. These Drillers weren't trying to be like Wacka and Gucci. That is how Chicago's been gettin down for ever. They ain't out killing and dying in Trap or any other scene point blank n period. In Chicago's history real gangsters didn't rap, they were seen as Goofy's and Neutrons that hung around gangs rapped but this is the first generation of street dudes rappin' so who knows what the next generation will elevate it to.

Drill didn't make the culture, the culture made Drill broski. This is how the city been gettin' down forever. The music is dark and graphic street talk about murder, guns, robberies, head-shots, smokin' on the opps etc. and not in any general terms. They're saying names, times and locations by dudes that actually are out doing what they rap about everyday and the long list of victims and murderes are there for you to see...They call out other rappers and their homies by name and talk about dead homies with ruthless disses talking all kinda shit and speak on specific details of murder scenes and shootings. They mock 'em and laugh about homies being killed. They straight call out their girls, mothers, kids, etc. etc. nothing is off limits. "F-ck Yo Homie He Dead" was the biggest line in Chicago for months with every set remixing it and the songs mention damn near every opp member that got killed and the circumstances. That's next level where only Drill will take it.

Now what would real gangsters do if you shot at them, killed a brother, threw down their set, dissed their dead homies and the whole 9? Now imagine you got dudes doing all that in songs and videos for millions to see. You better believe there's gonna be that get back and they all do it. The fact that it's on camera many times doesn't mean that it's not real street beef these boys are just that savage to give 0 Fcks to act and speak on what they do in public. Look at how many notable people in Chicago been killed on camera and no arrests were ever made. Some dudes pulled up on a mother holding her baby and got out of the car and emptied the clips on everybody standing by the street. They knew damn well there was a cop in a box on the pole filming and didn't care.

Lil Reese got jumped on live then made posts about that get back and a week later a dude from 079 was shot 3 times and Reese made the posts of pictures with one of the guys on crutches. That shows they self implicate and don't care who's watching.

I'll give you a perfect Drill/Chicago gang example, Young Pappy was a very talented G.D. rapper that got millions of views and woulda blown up for real. He made a song called "Shootas" making fun of the opps saying they can't shoot cause they tried killing him twice and killed 3 other innocent people trying to get him. So they finally walked up on him and shot him in the head 2 weeks after the song came out. Then his opps made videos talking about they "learned how to shoot" straight up dissin and implicating. 2 months later Pappy's friend/gang member and rapper Lil Shawn killed a dude in retaliation and is doing 55 years for murder. Their squad P.B.G. is the ones that kidnapped the white kid from the suburbs and duct taped him up, tortured him and put his head in the toilet all on live. That's the culture you're dealing with in Chicago. Young wild ass kids that are keeping score of opp packs in public and cameras ain't stopping that smoke when it kicks off.

These are rappers with names like Lil Durk and King Von that shot a guy on camera and robbed him in Atlanta. Pappy was gonna be a star, so was L.A. Capone, Rondo, Lil Marc, Wooski, Lil Jay, Jo-Jo etc. etc. and their songs get millions of views and were 69 and Bobby Shmurda's heroes. The dudes with the brightest futures are the ones that were still out bangin' the hardest. FBG Duck is still in the hood and lost his brother Brick, his best friend Tooka his homie Can'tgetright, he lost Dooski and Wooski is never gonna be the same from a head shot. He's got a few hit songs making major releases with probbaly close to or over a mil but is still in Chicago with the gang. Chicago's just different with the rap shit. These wars been going in the streets for decades and the rappers are living it out in the open, it's much bigger than "likes"..

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Old 08-09-2019, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Montreal now at 11.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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CHI WORSE DECADE EVER THE 70'S PRODUCED
8,275 murders

L.A WORSE DECADE EVER THE 80'S PRODUCED 8,354

CHI WORSE YEAR EVER
1974 = 970 MURDERS

CHI ALL TIME MURDER RATE = 33 PER 100K

L.A ALL TIME MURDER RATE = 34.2 PER 100K

L.A WORSE YEAR EVER
1992 = 1092 MURDERS

I don't think you can go around these numbers,
Even when L.A was less populated than Chicago in the early to mid 1980's it still had 1000 + murders in the city alone .. Something Chicago city never did before ever...
lol look at every decade going back a hundred years. what about this decade or the 2,000s LA isn't as bad as Chicago and it won't ever be. there was the crack epidemic and LA saw a high murder rate for a decade or so. that's it. Chicago remains dangerous with a very high murder rate decade after decade for a century. you bring up one or two decades that were a fluke because of some drug that was introduced to that time period. list both cities homicides every decade including this one and it's clear what city is historically more violent with a consistently high murder rate going back to the 19th century. I mean LA has like 250 homicides a year and a population of what 4 million? LA won't ever see its murder rate that high again unless some new drug like crack takes over.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:33 PM
 
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That was my point....The kids today was shooting guns on camera just to show it off on Facebook or YouTube..
They all wanted to be like Gucci mane and Waka Flocka and it just so happen to blow up on a mainstream level for Chief Keef...It was the Atlanta trap scene version of Chicago...


But In L.A,The gang violence was never glorified for Instagram likes....It was a real warzone that really captivated across major cities in America...Bloods and CRIPS are everywhere today....Your favorite rapper is probably a Blood or Crip and that just shows the impact and Influence that Los Angeles gangs had during it's peak...You throw in the L.A riots and the Death of hip hop's 2 biggest rap stars and there's literally no comparison to the Drill scene vs L.A gangsta rap...

Rest in peace to all who lost their lives though...
Uhhh the reason suburban parents and the whole god damn world knows about bloods and crips is because they were so mainstream. They made movies, music, etc. They were glorified more than any Chicago gang.

Just because Chicago gangs do it through IG and Snapchat instead of those mediums doesn't mean LA did not do it.


To top it off. Chicago has winters. So a lot of the homicides and crime was condensed to half the year. And stil l is.
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Old 08-10-2019, 04:25 AM
 
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To top it off. Chicago has winters. So a lot of the homicides and crime was condensed to half the year. And stil l is.
This is also true. If you go back to page 40 or so you see that Chicago didn't even pass Philly in murders until the beginning of April. Chicago winters are brutal. Philly winters are mild. No one is out shooting people in a polar vortex without 2 winter parkas on lmao.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Maine
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lol look at every decade going back a hundred years. what about this decade or the 2,000s LA isn't as bad as Chicago and it won't ever be. there was the crack epidemic and LA saw a high murder rate for a decade or so. that's it. Chicago remains dangerous with a very high murder rate decade after decade for a century. you bring up one or two decades that were a fluke because of some drug that was introduced to that time period. list both cities homicides every decade including this one and it's clear what city is historically more violent with a consistently high murder rate going back to the 19th century. I mean LA has like 250 homicides a year and a population of what 4 million? LA won't ever see its murder rate that high again unless some new drug like crack takes over.
LA's black homicide rate in 1992 was 142 per 100k. Chicago's was 75 per 100k. The black homicide rate in LA doubled Chicago's in 1992 and probably dwarfed it throughout the crack epidemic and gang wars of the 70s, 80s and 90s. I have yet to find a city with a higher black homicide rate than LA had.

Sergio Robleto, an LAPD sergeant said LAPD was fired upon 55 times in one month in 1993. And that's just in the City of LA. That's almost twice a day.

2,589 homicides in LA County in a year. 3,000+ in the overall LA area.

Numbers like these are unheard of except in places like Brazilian urban areas.

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