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Los Angeles 252 homicides and 924 shootings, down from 1100 homicides early 90s
LA has come a long way, and they are achieving these numbers without demolishing their most dangerous public housing. Even the infamous Watts neighborhood with its three public housing complexes within its boundaries had a murder rate of just 9.2 in the last 3-5 years, although aggravated assaults may be on the high end. Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw, another infamous neighborhood, had a murder rate of 18.7 in recent years. While that is still sort of high, it's expected for a city that has trimmed its murder rate to around 6/100k. The worst neighborhoods on average are probably 3-5 times that at most. https://www.niche.com/places-to-live...os-angeles-ca/ https://www.niche.com/places-to-live...os-angeles-ca/
If the trend continues, the LA can have below 200 homicides towards the end of the 2020s.
Dallas 53
Baltimore 52
Charlotte 52
Jacksonville 43
NYC 30
Memphis 26
Oklahoma City 23
Kansas City 17
Raleigh 17
Dayton 16
Louisville 16
Albuquerque 15
Minneapolis 15
St. Paul 14
Cincinnati 12
Denver 12
San Jose 12
Detroit 11
Atlanta 9
Richmond 8
St. Louis 7
Portland 7
Washington DC 6
Bridgeport 6
Philadelphia 5
Oakland 5
Providence 2
Baton Rouge 1
Columbus 1
Omaha 1
Cleveland -2
Milwaukee -2
Tulsa -3
San Francisco -3
San Diego -3
Rochester -4
Los Angeles -6
Birmingham -7
Indianapolis -7
Nashville -9
San Antonio -10
Newark -16
Houston -16
Orlando -16
Pittsburgh -18
Boston -18
New Orleans -26
Las Vegas -37
Chicago -71
TOTAL 220
Percent Change:
Raleigh 130.8%
Charlotte 92.9%
St. Paul 87.5%
Bridgeport 54.5%
San Jose 50.0%
Dayton 45.7%
Minneapolis 45.5%
Oklahoma City 39.0%
Jacksonville 37.4%
Dallas 34.0%
Portland 24.1%
Albuquerque 22.4%
Denver 22.2%
Cincinnati 21.4%
Louisville 21.1%
Providence 18.2%
Baltimore 16.9%
Memphis 15.9%
Richmond 15.4%
Kansas City 12.7%
Atlanta 10.5%
NYC 10.5%
Oakland 7.1%
Omaha 4.8%
Detroit 4.2%
Washington DC 3.8%
St. Louis 3.7%
Philadelphia 1.4%
Baton Rouge 1.2%
Columbus 1.0%
Cleveland -1.7%
Milwaukee -2.0%
Los Angeles -2.3%
Indianapolis -4.4%
Tulsa -4.6%
Houston -5.7%
Birmingham -6.5%
San Francisco -6.8%
San Antonio -9.2%
Nashville -10.6%
San Diego -10.7%
Rochester -10.8%
Chicago -12.7%
New Orleans -17.9%
Newark -23.9%
Las Vegas -30.8%
Boston -32.1%
Pittsburgh -32.7%
Orlando -38.1%
TOTAL 4.0%
I don't think you understand what superlatives are.
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^ As you admitted, you dont know a lot about Chicago and your posts show it. Furthermore, I never actually named the specific community areas I used in my calculation which means you actually dont know how I was doing that 100% other than me trying to describe the boundaries. It's not disingenuous at all.
Why don't you provide the 32 community areas then? Let's compare our list if you feel there is a possibility of a difference in our analysis.
You are 100% being disingenuous. Your comparison with U.S. national HHMI is not relevant to comparison of neighborhoods within Chicago.
I claimed that you carved out the wealthiest 1.4M subregion of Chicago, not that you carved out the wealthy regions of Chicago. There is a difference.
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The area that I am describing is mostly solidly middle class with a small amount of upper class and a slightly larger amount than that of upper middle class. I suggest you actually learn about the economic makeup of Chicago before you talk about these things.
You are getting into defensive mode instead of actually reading my argument. Take a minute, relax, and read it again.
I already confirmed that most of the land area is middle class. I'd suggest you learn basic english comprehension before getting so defensive.
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Nobody in their right mind who truly knows Chicago would think that areas such as Belmont Cragin, Albany Park, Rogers Park, Portage Park, West Ridge, Hermosa, Avondale, Armour Square, Uptown, Douglas, Oakland, Irving Park, Lower West Side, etc are even remotely considered wealthy. They are middle class at most and some are even lower middle class.
Most of these areas are far from being well off. Solidly middle class and many of these areas are actually solidly working class. If you are going to talk about a city, it's usually beneficial to actually live there and understand the makeup of these areas. I will admit that only a few of these areas are considered poorer on average, but most areas are not even close to upper middle class even.
Once again, I am not calling those areas wealthy. I clarified that multiple times. I asserted that you carved out the wealthiest continuous area of Chicago that represents 1.4 million people. This statement is 100% true. If it is not, then please provide another agglomeration of Chicago neighborhoods that is wealthier and also has 1.4 million people. I'm guessing it can't be done without serious gerrymandering!
San Francisco | 41 homicides | 4.64 per 100K
NYC | 317 homicides | 3.77 per 100K
San Jose | 36 homicides | 3.49 per 100K (thru 12/25)
Toronto | 77 homicides | 2.82 per 100K San Diego | 25 homicides | 1.75 per 100K
Calgary | 20 homicides | 1.61 per 100K
Madison, WI | 4 homicides | 1.55 per 100K
Chula Vista, CA | 4 homicides | 1.47 per 100K
Montreal | 25 homicides | 1.47 per 100K
As much as I would love for San Diego to have lower crime than Canadian cities, I don't think it's that low. What is your source for this information?
The ARJIS reporting system has the murder count for San Diego at 37 through October, with no data on November and December. ARJIS Crime Statistics
San Diego's population at the end of 2019 is likely close to 1,426,000 based on 1/1/19 estimates from CA Dept of Finance and my own extrapolation of 6,000 more people.
If there were no more homicides (there were), SD's rate would be 2.59 per 100K. Assuming the monthly average rate of 4 through October, that would put San Diego at 45 by year's end for a rate of 3.16 per 100K. It appears San Diego's violent crime is ticking upwards, unfortunately.
The ones that stood at as particularly unusual or sad:
- synagogue shooting (1 fatality)
- La Jolla drive-by shooting (1 fatality).
- family murder-suicide (5 fatalities, excluding gunman)
StL is baffling to me. It is def the worst city in the 2010 with a 10 year average of 50.9. Its comparable to the 90's when it was at its peak crime murder wise at 51.69? What strikes me along with Baltimore is why, how all the sudden since 2014-2015 did everything spike? To start St.L had rates 45 (2010) 35 (2011) 35 (2012) 37 (2013) 50 (2014) 59 (2015) 59 again (2016) 65 (2017) 60 (2018) 64 (2019)
compare this to Baltimore who's 10 year average is 38.6 similar to St.louis 2000's decade rate. The start of the decade started on a downtrend then just blew up around 2014 just like St.Louis
36 (2010) 31 (2011) 35 (2012) 37 (2013) 33 (2014) 55(2015) 51.7 (2016) 52 (2017) 50 (2018) 57 (2019)
Including the spike in Chicago in 2016-2017 rates just don't dramatically increase like that without a significant event. Consider Detroit even with a 200k less people the rates are down and same with New Orleans whose rates used to be higher than St. Louis' highest rates.
Hartford, CT 23
Springfield, Mass 20
Bridgeport, CT 17
Providence, RI 13
New Haven CT 12
Manchester, NH 6
Brocktonm MA 5
Stamford, CT 5
Waterbury, CT 5
Fall River, MA 4
Lowell, MA 4
New Britain, 3
Portland, ME 3
Hamden, CT 3
Pittsfield , MA 2
Meriden, CT 2
Pawtucket, RI 1
Norwalk, CT 1
Bangor, ME 1
Burlington VT 1
South Burlington VT 1
Danbury, CT 1
This is the last 6 months but I have the files from the entire year saved on my computer, so I can look back. Not sure which one is more accurate then. Regardless, San Diego is probably the lowest homicide rate city of any of the large or big cities in America.
This is the last 6 months but I have the files from the entire year saved on my computer, so I can look back. Not sure which one is more accurate then. Regardless, San Diego is probably the lowest homicide rate city of any of the large or big cities in America.
Interesting...same sources, different websites and different numbers.
Well I have no idea, but thanks for the link!
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