City and Metro homicides 2019 (live, rates, crime, compared)
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Which is insane considering Baltimore has 600,000 people vs. Chicago's 2,700,000. Chicago would have over 650 homicides right now if it had the same homicide rate as Baltimore. It's at about 220.
Chicago had over 900 murders per year during the Cabrini Green days in the 90's. I'm holding my breath already for the soon to come 4th of July weekend in Chicago.
The city of Flint, Michigan had until June 10th, according to Flint police, 16 homicides which is down 20% from last year.
Chicago had over 900 murders per year during the Cabrini Green days in the 90's. I'm holding my breath already for the soon to come 4th of July weekend in Chicago.
The city of Flint, Michigan had until June 10th, according to Flint police, 16 homicides which is down 20% from last year.
Right, Baltimore has a higher homicide rate in 2019 than Chicago did in it's worst years in the 1990s.
Philly is just up 8% as of now from last year. I think Philly had more murders than Baltimore last year, I don't know off hand, but other than that, Baltimore's ended each year above Philly for several years.
Right, Baltimore has a higher homicide rate in 2019 than Chicago did in it's worst years in the 1990s.
Chicago's rate was over 30 in the early 90's, Baltimore is around 24 right now. In 2016 Chicago was near 30 again. You are abusing/cherry-picking statistics, you can't just apply rates to different populations and say how many homicides city "x" would have if they were as violent. Using your logic Chicago would of needed 3,600 murders a year in the 90's to equal Gary's rate but life doesn't work that way. If Gary was Chicago's size it obviously wouldn't have a rate anywhere near them numbers because you'd have economic and ethnic diversity as well as many other factors that would lower crime rates. I can tell you that Chicago's most violent neighborhoods were as bad as Gary and maybe worse. They have rates in the 150-160 range steady through modern history. When you hear about 72 shot and 12 killed in a weekend the vast majority is in a few small South Side/West Side pockets. What would happen to Baltimore's rate if you added Chicago's affluent North Side which is bigger than Baltimore, to Baltimore? You think the rate remains constant and assume it would have twice the murders or that it would offset the crime rates that occur in the violent areas of the city?
Chicago's rate was over 30 in the early 90's, Baltimore is around 24 right now. In 2016 Chicago was near 30 again. You are abusing/cherry-picking statistics, you can't just apply rates to different populations and say how many homicides city "x" would have if they were as violent. Using your logic Chicago would of needed 3,600 murders a year in the 90's to equal Gary's rate but life doesn't work that way. If Gary was Chicago's size it obviously wouldn't have a rate anywhere near them numbers because you'd have economic and ethnic diversity as well as many other factors that would lower crime rates. I can tell you that Chicago's most violent neighborhoods were as bad as Gary and maybe worse. They have rates in the 150-160 range steady through modern history. When you hear about 72 shot and 12 killed in a weekend the vast majority is in a few small South Side/West Side pockets. What would happen to Baltimore's rate if you added Chicago's affluent North Side which is bigger than Baltimore, to Baltimore? You think the rate remains constant and assume it would have twice the murders or that it would offset the crime rates that occur in the violent areas of the city?
This is why city public safety comparisons are mostly bogus garbage
I think we can all agree on one thing. Baltimore is a literal f*#king warzone. When statistics show that you're likely to be robbed/attacked in a city's downtown central business district, let alone just one mile outside of it, that city has a huge problem.
I think we can all agree on one thing. Baltimore is a literal f*#king warzone. When statistics show that you're likely to be robbed/attacked in a city's downtown central business district, let alone just one mile outside of it, that city has a huge problem.
It's very bad, when considering the USA is a top tier developed countries and had 4 cities - others being St. Louis, Detroit, and New Orleans- among the top 50 for murder rates. Imagine if America was actually third world, or even middle income.
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It's very bad, when considering the USA is a top tier developed countries and had 4 cities - others being St. Louis, Detroit, and New Orleans- among the top 50 for murder rates. Imagine if America was actually third world, or even middle income.
I think these rankings should be taken with minor consideration. Our country being a " top tier developed" nation doesn't nullify issues that continue like anywhere else in the world. People should refrain from using "warfare" description of violence in poor neighborhoods of our cities.
Chicago's rate was over 30 in the early 90's, Baltimore is around 24 right now. In 2016 Chicago was near 30 again. You are abusing/cherry-picking statistics, you can't just apply rates to different populations and say how many homicides city "x" would have if they were as violent. Using your logic Chicago would of needed 3,600 murders a year in the 90's to equal Gary's rate but life doesn't work that way. If Gary was Chicago's size it obviously wouldn't have a rate anywhere near them numbers because you'd have economic and ethnic diversity as well as many other factors that would lower crime rates. I can tell you that Chicago's most violent neighborhoods were as bad as Gary and maybe worse. They have rates in the 150-160 range steady through modern history. When you hear about 72 shot and 12 killed in a weekend the vast majority is in a few small South Side/West Side pockets. What would happen to Baltimore's rate if you added Chicago's affluent North Side which is bigger than Baltimore, to Baltimore? You think the rate remains constant and assume it would have twice the murders or that it would offset the crime rates that occur in the violent areas of the city?
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