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So those years where Montreal had lots of murders (it even topped 100 at one point) were years where the city got freak subtropical winter temperatures, I guess?
Have you read the entire post? It was the biker war, cold or not they will kill each other but not on the streets, most killings were indoor like that one time when they threw a rocket at a house where the rival gang was holding a meeting... Most of the killings are indoors, just check the news you will see, barely any winter killings are outside... Because people in Canada mostly live indoor because of the weather
Have you read the entire post? It was the biker war, cold or not they will kill each other but not on the streets, most killings were indoor like that one time when they threw a rocket at a house where the rival gang was holding a meeting... Most of the killings are indoors, just check the news you will see, barely any winter killings are outside... Because people in Canada mostly live indoor because of the weather
You keep beating this dead horse all the time but Montreal has a low murder rate because it has a low murder rate. It's only very slightly related to the climate.
Chicago is cold for half the year yet it has tons of murders compared to San Diego which is warm all year.
For Montreal it is a bit complex... It used to have +50 per year, but they just locked all the bikers and Mafioso... Then the Risoto empire fell...
Also one reason is the weather, remember when I think in 206, NYC went like 12 days without any murder because it was too cold...? Well winter in Montreal are worse than this cold wave in NYC and last 6 months so people barely stay outside because just way too cold. People in Montreal basically live indoor for much of the year because of the weather so they have less opportunity to interact with other because when the weather is warm, people do get into fights, stabbing, shootings...
2 weeks ago a woman and her daughter got shot at in brad dailight at noon on the street. And gun fire are common, just they do not seem to aim well
If long, harsh winters were a contributing factor, Detroit, Flint, Milwaukee and Chicago would have low murder rates and low murder rates they have not. Locking up the thugs is probably what worked for Montreal.
Speaking of Chicago, did anybody else notice it will be 4th of July weekend soon?
Montreal is a very safe city, period. Even the worst "slums" are perfectly fine to walk through in the dead of night. A tourist doesn't have to worry about "ending up in the wrong hood," or about getting off at the wrong metro stop.
You keep beating this dead horse all the time but Montreal has a low murder rate because it has a low murder rate. It's only very slightly related to the climate.
Chicago is cold for half the year yet it has tons of murders compared to San Diego which is warm all year.
Chicago is a more violent city than San Diego period but it holds true when its deathly cold the murder rate in Chicago is lower than in the summer months. Now you can say it's because kids are in school during the winter months, but the major reason is cold causes less violence. It won't drop Chicago all the way to Montreal or San Diego but it will drop the murder rate.
Chicago is a more violent city than San Diego period but it holds true when its deathly cold the murder rate in Chicago is lower than in the summer months. Now you can say it's because kids are in school during the winter months, but the major reason is cold causes less violence. It won't drop Chicago all the way to Montreal or San Diego but it will drop the murder rate.
I've talked to some people in San Diego who said that the reason why the crime rate is so low there is because the year round nice weather makes everyone happy.
I feel like Houston falls within this "dynamic" and is the largest city (and metro area) that's built this way. Violent crime is pretty much in all areas of the city sans the west side. Even then, only the more exclusive west side areas are excluded because even just the nice sides of the west may be near a pocket of higher crime. Violent crime is for sure higher in certain sides of town (Southwest, East, North, South), but it's overall evenly distributed.
And that's a good thing because in Houston, you can't say one side of town is the worst because there are pockets of ghetto in all quadrants: N, S, E, W, NE, NW, SE, SW where violent crime is common. You can look at a Houston crime map and see that crime is evenly distributed all over the city. We go by hoods in Houston to gauge violent crime.
The official government site for Baton Rouge says 90 committed 1st and 2nd degree murders. A newspaper says 37. Which is correct? I don't know which one, and i go with official government counts over newspaper. No matter the case, it's good to put away your confirmation bias and find out the truth.
One thing is for sure though. Even for a city of 225K, even 25 right now would put it in the top 10.
Not if the newspaper and the news stations have the same murder counts for Baton Rouge, and 90 murders would be big news considering the most murders Baton Rouge has ever had over the course of a year is 87 in 2017.
If long, harsh winters were a contributing factor, Detroit, Flint, Milwaukee and Chicago would have low murder rates and low murder rates they have not. Locking up the thugs is probably what worked for Montreal.
Speaking of Chicago, did anybody else notice it will be 4th of July weekend soon?
it is, notice how homicide spike during summer in most US cities?
And also, Chicago winter is mild compare to Canada ones (minus British Columbia).
In Montreal for instance, the coldest month in Chicago is as cold as March in Montreal... Freaking March, so that "harsh crazy winter" of Chicago will be early spring in Montreal... Believe me, Montreal winter is no joke
the average low for the coldest month in Chicago is -7.7C(18.2F) and March in Montreal is -6.5C(20.3F), so on average, 3 months of the year it is colder in Montreal than the coldest month of Chicago, and when I mean colder, I mean very colder... The record low in Chicago is −32F... This is a normal winter temperature in Montreal from December to early March.
Do you know what it is to be like 3 weeks where the temperature never exceed −36F? Do you know what it is 100 straight days with temperatures bellow 20?
So do you really thinks those gang bangers in Chicago will stay on their corners when it is -20F for 3 months...? When **** pop off, you can not even run because there is way too much snow and ice...? NO... Black people we barely go outside when it is 40F so -20...
Another factor is demographic...
PC aside, in those cities, most homicides are African American killings other African Americans since guns are easy to get in the US compared to the rest of the world...
Those 3 cities you mentioned are about 40-60% black and like I said, PC aside, they are the group who commit most murders by a large margin whereas in Montreal, there is fewer black (8%) and also they do not have that gangsta culture because black Canadian have a different background than most black American...
Black Canadian are mostly (by a very large margin) immigrant and just like black immigrant in the US, they commit very few crimes.
This is also a fact to not omit.
And like you said, locking them up also help...
In Chicago the punishment for illegal guns are way too soft, and in some neighbourhood, police do not do their jobs and also the city is soft...
In Canada police also do kill unarmed people and despite the outrage, nothing never happen to them while in Chicago when they do kill an armed male who just hijacked a vehicle, the cop goes to jail so they just back off
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