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Old 07-11-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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I wasn't disputing anything just recalling an incident. Also, there's conflicting definitions of mass shootings and possibly different statistics than the link you provided.
The official definition is a shooting with 4 or more death or injured. That takes into account gang shooting, familicids
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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The official definition is a shooting with 4 or more death or injured. That takes into account gang shooting, familicids
I think you didn't read the additional link in your link.
"The motivation of the shooting must not correlate with gang violence or targeted militant or terroristic activity".

There's far more than 340 mass shootings in a 50 year period if you include the themes they omitted.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Pittsburgh is now at 20.

Using our 2018 estimated population of 301,048, that gives us a rate of 6.64/100,000. That's still below-average for the year.
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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I think you didn't read the additional link in your link.
"The motivation of the shooting must not correlate with gang violence or targeted militant or terroristic activity".

There's far more than 340 mass shootings in a 50 year period if you include the themes they omitted.
I do not think there are far more, 340 mass shooting in 50 year that an average of 6.8 mass shooting per year, concidering the recent years average 1-3 mass shooting per year, I doubt there were 5-10 unprovoken mad shooting per year.
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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I do not think there are far more, 340 mass shooting in 50 year that an average of 6.8 mass shooting per year, concidering the recent years average 1-3 mass shooting per year, I doubt there were 5-10 unprovoken mad shooting per year.
Ok dude.
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Old 07-14-2019, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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To top this all off, the decline started under David Dinkins not Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy accelerated the decline and went farther than Dinkins did. Double digit drops yearly. Backed the police with more tools than what Dinkins did. Stop and frisk/compstat implemented which not only tanked the murder rate but robberies/muggings. While Dinkins inherited a mess and did add more cops to the beat, the bottom line is during his last year in office murders were higher than any non-Dinkins year.
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Old 07-14-2019, 12:31 PM
 
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Rudy accelerated the decline and went farther than Dinkins did. Double digit drops yearly. Backed the police with more tools than what Dinkins did. Stop and frisk/compstat implemented which not only tanked the murder rate but robberies/muggings. While Dinkins inherited a mess and did add more cops to the beat, the bottom line is during his last year in office murders were higher than any non-Dinkins year.
Sure, but that still doesn't negate the fact that the decline actually started under Dinkins, which never or hardly gets mentioned on a national level.

"The chart shows that the decline in violent crime in New York was a little steeper in New York than some other big cities during the Giuiliani years, but it was part of a general nationwide trend. Philip Kafinitz, professor of sociology at the City University of New York Graduate Center, notes that the drop in the crime rate began under Giuliani's Democratic predecessor, David Dinkins, and has continued under Bloomberg, who has adopted "a kindler, gentler approach" than Giuliani. The present head of the NYPD, Raymond Kelly, served in the same post under Dinkins."

Source: Fact Checker - Rudy the Crime Buster
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:11 PM
 
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Miami Dade - only 25? NO WAY, get Miami gardens or liberty city and you see
I think murksiderock's list has the numbers reported by Miami-Dade county sheriff. Those numbers won't include the city of Miami or any other actual city in Miami-Dade such as Miami Gardens, Hialeah, Homestead, Miami Beach, North Miami, Florida City and a lot others since those places have their own law enforcement agencies. If including the cities, the numbers will most likely be higher.

As of 06/30, unincorporated Miami-Dade is at 37.

https://www.miamidade.gov/police/lib...comparison.pdf

I don't know the population of unincorporated Dade so I don't know how much that is per capita.
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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Homicides for other Florida cities and counties so far:

Jacksonville - 66 (81 if including justifiable and unclassified)
Orlando as of 06/15 - 10
Orange County (including Orlando) as of 06/15 - 41
Daytona Beach - 3
Belle Glade - 1
West Palm Beach - 9
Riviera Beach - 4
Palm Beach County (includes all cities) - 52
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Old 07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Austin, TX is now at 18 after a few homicides since 4th of July.
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