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Originally Posted by cpomp
Something I found shocking about DC. I know a lot of people who live there (younger), most come from small towns in the midwest and DC is their first "big" city experience and most I talk to have (or had) zero idea of the crime problems and cost of living problems plaguing so much of the city.
I find it odd and out of touch that people would not realize the issues going on in their own city, whether you care or deny is one thing, but to be totally clueless about the dark history of crime, poverty, drugs and race relations is sort of an incompetent citizen to me...
Almost everyone I know in Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, San Fran and some other cities are well aware of the crime, drug, poverty, homelessness issues, some care some don't, but something is off with DC...
Violent crime is actually down in DC, that is fact. Crime on Metro is also down.
The murder rate in DC has gone up yes, but not anything like it's murder rate from two decades ago still. BTW that murder rate is truly bumped higher due to NE/SE DC East of the Anacostia river.
Obviously your younger than me. All of that is nothing new except SOCIAL MEDIA. . Guys BEEN doing those type of low budget rap videos, weed smoking, etc back in the 90s & 00s before Keef blew up & became the face of something he nor his click coined. Bangers back then did the same and some cases more subliminal with it. Think about all the rappers then that didn't make it to this present. Drill have influence during it's primetime and others are using the same lingo but other regions don't use it.
What didn't Keef coin? Drill? There were some guys before him but he was the first to blow so he's going to be the face of the genre. I know there were videos with cats wearing flags and colors, throwing gang signs and showing a gun here & there or smoking weed. I don't remember the entire premise of a video being 10 dudes in a room smoking blunts, all holding up glocks with the 50 shot drums and machine guns with red dots in front of the camera and throwing down rival sets in slow motion close ups. That's where Drill took it to a different level. Drill videos are just as fundamental to the style as the beats and lyrics. It's not just being low budget, it's how they move in them videos and how they demo, that was defenitely original.
Drill is dark, relentless and gritty lyrically and stylistically. Taunting the opps, dissing dead homies by name, telling details of murders, keeping score of the dead like it's a sport, calling snitches out by name, mocking dudes that survived head shots, laughing at the homies getting killed and standing over where they died, all that is next level. This hasn't ever been done before. The gang bang music I've heard was all just generic, general talk. The fact that it's so personal becuase they grew up blocks apart introduces a whole different element to it.
Most of all they are actually killing and dying for real. I don't know what rap scene has this many bodies linked to it. This is again where Drill took it to another level. In my opinion Drill elevated the rap/street connection to where the rappers are actually the shooters and ain't just claiming a city or neighborhood while being extorted by the gangs to put on that facade.
As for Drill's influence they inspired New York for real. Bobby Shmurda, 6ix9ine, Sheff G, 22G'z etc. There's a ton of NY Drill rappers and they ran with the whole culture. London even got Drillers.
Poverty is a factor in ghetto crime. When the next person has more than you, even if not by much, you're going to want to take what they have because you see them as a threat. I grew up in a notoriously dangerous hood of Houston, and didn't think of getting into the street life because for one, the elders in my community knew me and my parents by name so word would get back to them that I was out there doing something I had no business doing. Two, I was trying to make it out of the hood, so I had to stay focused.
Drill rappers have it easier to get publicized with social media now. Most of them got their fame off Youtube. LA gangster rappers didn't have Youtube to post videos for the world to see. And they didn't have that social media beef it was strictly in the streets.
LA was on another level back in the day. LA County peaked at 2,589 homicides. Cook County never came close to that. All of the Chicago metropolitan area never came close to that.
Who cares how many murders L.A. Metro or L.A. County had? You may as well compare California to Illinois. Outside of Chicago/Gary the metro is a bunch of low density suburbs. Long Beach is more than twice the size of anywhere in Chicago's metro. If Detroit was in Chicago's Metro does that go down as Chicago violence? Chicago is half the size of L.A. with over a million less people and got thousands more police and a way bigger jail for a reason.
L.A. aint ever been worse than Chicago, maybe similar but worse? No way, and for the last however long L.A. isn't even in the conversation. As for the rappers, it's easier for L.A. artists to get on than Chicago. L.A.'s had a spotlight for over 30 years now with countless superstars and labels everywhere. Not to mention social media doesn't make it easy to blow up, there's a million independent artists all able to upload music that creates competition and over-saturation to a degree never seen before. Chicago never really even had a big gangster rap scene cause the gangsters looked at rappers like goofy's. This is the first generation where the bangers are rapping and the results are obvious. Banging on Wax was a financed collaborative project and they held auditions. It wasn't some grass roots organic movement like Drill with street dudes making music in a bedroom.
Leaving Baton Rouge off for now, but even with their newspaper's totals, they're in the top 10 highest rate right now for sure similar to that of Detroit. Also I wish I could get a good read on Cleveland, but I can't. It's very possibly also in the top 10 of rate, also similar to that of Detroit.
Who cares how many murders L.A. Metro or L.A. County had? You may as well compare California to Illinois. Outside of Chicago/Gary the metro is a bunch of low density suburbs. Long Beach is more than twice the size of anywhere in Chicago's metro. If Detroit was in Chicago's Metro does that go down as Chicago violence? Chicago is half the size of L.A. with over a million less people and got thousands more police and a way bigger jail for a reason.
If you want to go by city, LA's peak murder rate in history was still higher than Chicago's.
Additionally, Compton, Inglewood, East LA, Long Beach, all not in the City of LA. When people think of LA hoods most of what they think of is LA County not LA City. That's why I mentioned LA County, which peaked at 2,589 homicides with 9 million people while the Chicago metro area is 9.5 million and doesn't even crack 1,000 homicides.
Chicago gang members also get away with more. They're constantly let back out on the streets. In LA between the crackdowns and gang injunctions you can't get away with half of what these Chicago dudes do. And the LA County Jail is the biggest jail system in the world so I don't know what you're talking about saying there's a "way bigger jail in Chicago."
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L.A. aint ever been worse than Chicago, maybe similar but worse? No way, and for the last however long L.A. isn't even in the conversation. As for the rappers, it's easier for L.A. artists to get on than Chicago. L.A.'s had a spotlight for over 30 years now with countless superstars and labels everywhere. Not to mention social media doesn't make it easy to blow up, there's a million independent artists all able to upload music that creates competition and over-saturation to a degree never seen before. Chicago never really even had a big gangster rap scene cause the gangsters looked at rappers like goofy's. This is the first generation where the bangers are rapping and the results are obvious. Banging on Wax was a financed collaborative project and they held auditions. It wasn't some grass roots organic movement like Drill with street dudes making music in a bedroom.
LA has historically been worse than Chicago. City too but especially the overall metro area. A lot worse.
LA rappers during the gangster rap era couldn't film in their bedrooms and post music on Youtube. They had to go through a label like Death Row which was basically a mob.
I'm not impressed with those Chicago rappers. They flash guns, film in their bedroom all the time. So what lol. When it comes down to it I see them record themselves on their camera phones, skinny jeans and all, fighting like girls (Rico Recklezz). Or cowering down in a confrontation (600Breezy).
Imagine Pac or anyone from Death Row fighting like girls with helicopter arms and skinny jeans or cowering down and getting their manhood taken? Lol. But you think LA was the goofies? Ok now you're just talking just to talk
Last edited by joeyg2014; 07-22-2019 at 06:37 PM..
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