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The race with the highest percentage in DC is blacks. That why it's known as Chocolate City.
It has some of the highest black diversity in the country, but very few Hispanics and Asians.
The District proper is the size of a section of the city of Toronto, and even that section would be less than 50% Black. So saying what you just stated doesn’t diminish the diversity of the place. The metro area has about 1.4 million Blacks, over 2 million whites and just shy of 1 million Hispanics, with somewhere between 600-700k Asians and climbing. And like you said there is much Black diversity within. It’s very balanced across the board, not sure why you’re going into multiple threads saying the same thing over and over.
I see, this thread discussion is now a Toronto versus Washington D.C., which one is more international and/or cosmopolitan. I ran the numbers a few years ago.
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Afghan:
- Toronto’s GGH: 35,440
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 14,692
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 13,215
- Chicago CSA: 521
Albanian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 17,245
- Chicago CSA: 11,998
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 2,419
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 224
Alsatian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 625
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 310
- Chicago CSA: 0
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 0
Argentinean:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 10,413
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 8,744
- Toronto’s GGH: 8,150
- Chicago CSA: 7,608
Armenian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 20,910
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 11,178
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 5,229
- Chicago CSA: 4,689
Assyrian:
- Chicago CSA: 10,148
- Toronto’s GGH: 8,065
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 3,465
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 402
Australian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 7,455
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,942
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,594
- Chicago CSA: 879
Austrian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 39,905
- Chicago CSA: 5,788
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 4,631
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,455
Bahamian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 750
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 612
- Chicago CSA: 158
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 86
Barbadian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 19,500
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,321
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 507
- Chicago CSA: 147
Basque:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,011
- Toronto’s GGH: 575
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 280
- Chicago CSA: 46
Belizean:
- Chicago CSA: 3,484
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 439
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 432
- Toronto’s GGH: 300
Belgian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 14,195
- Chicago CSA: 3,980
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 2,327
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,134
Bermudan:
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,105
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 132
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 83
- Chicago CSA: 0
Bolivian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 47,070
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,236
- Chicago CSA: 1,851
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,155
Brazilian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 11,530
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 8,313
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 5,166
- Chicago CSA: 2,718
British West Indian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 2,613
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 2,490
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 266
- Chicago CSA: 87
Bulgarian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 11,950
- Chicago CSA: 8,449
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 4,234
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,534
Cajun:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 462
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 171
- Chicago CSA: 43
- Toronto’s GGH: 0
Canadian:
- Toronto’s GGH: LOL
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 9,622
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 7,476
- Chicago CSA: 6,455
Cape Verdean:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,101
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 536
- Toronto’s GGH: 480
- Chicago CSA: 0
Carpatho Rusyn:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 107
- Chicago CSA: 79
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 0
- Toronto’s GGH: 0
Chilean:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 10,788
- Toronto’s GGH: 9,775
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 7,039
- Chicago CSA: 2,383
Chinese:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 658,972
- Toronto’s GGH: 643,430
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 134,594
- Chicago CSA: 107,325
Colombian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 33,726
- Toronto’s GGH: 26,040
- Chicago CSA: 19,724
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 15,169
Costa Rican:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 7,881
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 5,632
- Toronto’s GGH: 2,475
- Chicago CSA: 1,780
Croatian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 52,670
- Chicago CSA: 13,430
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 6,120
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,241
Cuban:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 27,615
- Chicago CSA: 19,892
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 14,533
- Toronto’s GGH: 9,340
Cypriot:
- Toronto’s GGH: 3,195
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 514
- Chicago CSA: 384
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 46
Czech:
- Chicago CSA: 30,821
- Toronto’s GGH: 22,265
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 8,864
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 5,628
Czechoslovakian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 7,465
- Chicago CSA: 5,092
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,087
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,933
Danish:
- Toronto’s GGH: 23,855
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 10,608
- Chicago CSA: 8,235
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,955
Dominican:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 28,827
- Chicago CSA: 6,265
- Toronto’s GGH: 5,895
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,520
Dutch:
- Toronto’s GGH: 193,540
- Chicago CSA: 42,795
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 20,387
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 16,871
Dutch West Indian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 789
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 35
- Chicago CSA: 0
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 0
Ecuadorian:
- Chicago CSA: 25,930
- Toronto’s GGH: 15,015
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 13,109
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 3,476
Egyptian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 29,900
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 12,625
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 3,268
- Chicago CSA: 2,783
El Salvadoran:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 336,133
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 122,485
- Toronto’s GGH: 21,135
- Chicago CSA: 11,439
Estonian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 9,780
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 518
- Chicago CSA: 399
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 365
Ethiopian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 50,307
- Toronto’s GGH: 13,980
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 13,131
- Chicago CSA: 3,607
Filipino:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 452,749
- Toronto’s GGH: 264,400
- Chicago CSA: 115,482
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 80,039
Finnish:
- Toronto’s GGH: 22,045
- Chicago CSA: 4,892
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 4,879
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,588
French:
- Toronto’s GGH: 425,335
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 30,309
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 25,870
- Chicago CSA: 20,102
German:
- Toronto’s GGH: 499,385
- Chicago CSA: 433,269
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 380,423
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 178,266
Ghanian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 19,880
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 19,653
- Chicago CSA: 3,501
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,293
Greek:
- Toronto’s GGH: 110,715
- Chicago CSA: 49,734
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 24,535
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 13,934
Guatemalan:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 81,354
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 59,567
- Chicago CSA: 37,277
- Toronto’s GGH: 6,475
Guyanese:
- Toronto’s GGH: 61,800
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 7,425
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 743
- Chicago CSA: 618
Haitian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 13,998
- Toronto’s GGH: 4,890
- Chicago CSA: 4,648
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,521
Honduran:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 60,492
- Chicago CSA: 14,947
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 13,826
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,695
Hungarian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 88,030
- Chicago CSA: 12,228
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 11,312
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 9,262
Icelander:
- Toronto’s GGH: 5,720
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 851
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 323
- Chicago CSA: 252
Indian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 621,870
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 359,816
- Chicago CSA: 224,479
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 204,818
Iranian (Persian):
- Toronto’s GGH: 81,180
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 36,039
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 27,836
- Chicago CSA: 9,038
Iraqi:
- Toronto’s GGH: 24,405
- Chicago CSA: 7,734
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,793
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 3,296
Irish:
- Toronto’s GGH: 861,340
- Chicago CSA: 282,781
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 255,969
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 161,074
Israeli:
- Toronto’s GGH: 8,075
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 4,466
- Chicago CSA: 2,915
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,696
Italian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 619,280
- Chicago CSA: 215,630
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 148,282
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 143,406
Jamaican:
- Toronto’s GGH: 195,340
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 36,331
- Chicago CSA: 9,294
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 3,061
Japanese:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 452,749
- Toronto’s GGH: 29,685
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 17,306
- Chicago CSA: 14,970
Jordanian:
- Chicago CSA: 9,002
- Toronto’s GGH: 4,225
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,303
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 962
Kenyan:
- Toronto’s GGH: 3,800
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 2,409
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,380
- Chicago CSA: 766
Latvian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 11,080
- Chicago CSA: 2,284
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,918
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,267
Lebanese:
- Toronto’s GGH: 28,750
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 8,413
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 4,942
- Chicago CSA: 3,258
Liberian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 5,737
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,397
- Chicago CSA: 691
- Toronto’s GGH: 475
Lithuanian:
- Chicago CSA: 30,961
- Toronto’s GGH: 19,655
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 12,369
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 3,301
Luxemburger:
- Chicago CSA: 1,136
- Toronto’s GGH: 605
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 185
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 0
Macedonian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 28,495
- Chicago CSA: 4,657
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 455
- Washington DC-Baltimore: 234
Maltese:
- Toronto’s GGH: 24,065
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,769
- Chicago CSA: 110
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 0
Mexican:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,723,690
- Chicago CSA: 1,676,437
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 181,352
- Toronto’s GGH: 18,870
Moroccan:
- Toronto’s GGH: 6,850
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,911
- Chicago CSA: 2,517
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 562
New Zealander:
- Toronto’s GGH: 2,465
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 967
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 276
- Chicago CSA: 160
Nicaraguan:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 48,891
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 18,752
- Toronto’s GGH: 3,960
- Chicago CSA: 3,210
Nigerian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 33,557
- Toronto’s GGH: 17,020
- Chicago CSA: 12,886
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 6,485
Norwegian:
- Chicago CSA: 34,180
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 25,929
- Toronto’s GGH: 23,455
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 15,844
Palestinian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 13,370
- Chicago CSA: 11,533
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 6,485
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,468
Panamanian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 9,651
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 5,397
- Chicago CSA: 2,355
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,475
Paraguayan:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,513
- Chicago CSA: 750
- Toronto’s GGH: 525
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 82
Peruvian:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 49,643
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 29,759
- Toronto’s GGH: 11,160
- Chicago CSA: 10,889
Polish:
- Chicago CSA: 390,621
- Toronto’s GGH: 298,580
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 83,734
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 30,432
Portuguese:
- Toronto’s GGH: 239,435
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 50,824
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 9,157
- Chicago CSA: 2,160
Puerto Rican:
- Chicago CSA: 212,420
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 94,561
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 44,915
- Toronto’s GGH: 495
Romanian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 57,500
- Chicago CSA: 20,273
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 7,438
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 7,374
Russian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 137,345
- Chicago CSA: 44,072
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 44,071
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 42,351
Scandinavian:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 7,352
- Chicago CSA: 6,766
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,086
- Toronto’s GGH: 3,383
Senegalese:
- Chicago CSA: 609
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 316
- Toronto’s GGH: 280
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 24
Serbian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 44,130
- Chicago CSA: 17,392
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,773
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,763
Sierra Leonean:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 9,867
- Toronto’s GGH: 585
- Chicago CSA: 0
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 0
Slavic:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,366
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,812
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,285
- Chicago CSA: 1,698
Slovak:
- Toronto’s GGH: 20,450
- Chicago CSA: 15,339
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 7,273
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 2,167
Slovene:
- Toronto’s GGH: 16,700
- Chicago CSA: 4,136
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,163
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 908
Somali:
- Toronto’s GGH: 23,645
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,655
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 956
- Chicago CSA: 821
South African:
- Toronto’s GGH: 11,210
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,596
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,093
- Chicago CSA: 392
South Korean:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 107,219
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 77,335
- Toronto’s GGH: 66,710
- Chicago CSA: 53,021
Spaniard:
- Toronto’s GGH: 124,380
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 41,799
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 19,973
- Chicago CSA: 10,343
Sudanese:
- Toronto’s GGH: 4,876
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 4,261
- Chicago CSA: 717
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 0
Syrian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 9,865
- Chicago CSA: 6,062
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,224
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,568
Swedish:
- Chicago CSA: 42,285
- Toronto’s GGH: 28,065
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 21,545
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 13,110
Swiss:
- Toronto’s GGH: 24,345
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 7,416
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 5,505
- Chicago CSA: 3,347
Trinidadian and Tobagonian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 45,410
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 10,368
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,239
- Chicago CSA: 538
Turkish:
- Toronto’s GGH: 22,735
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 7,304
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 5,299
- Chicago CSA: 4,938
Ugandan:
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,955
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,824
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 993
- Chicago CSA: 718
Ukrainian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 191,330
- Chicago CSA: 30,170
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 14,600
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 14,085
Uruguayan:
- Toronto’s GGH: 3,345
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 3,230
- Chicago CSA: 1,337
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 1,145
Venezuelan:
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 8,924
- Toronto’s GGH: 6,350
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 4,076
- Chicago CSA: 3,058
Vietnamese:
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 211,102
- Toronto’s GGH: 80,230
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 74,630
- Chicago CSA: 19,799
Virgin Islander:
- Toronto’s GGH: 1,452
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 404
- Chicago CSA: 0
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 0
Welsh:
- Toronto’s GGH: 90,215
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 8,975
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 7,378
- Chicago CSA: 4,881
West Indian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 42,495
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 6,817
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 619
- Chicago CSA: 284
Yugoslavian:
- Toronto’s GGH: 15,075
- Chicago CSA: 9,745
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 6,260
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 1,546
Zimbabwean:
- Toronto’s GGH: 2,715
- Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 403
- San Francisco Bay Area CSA: 390
- Chicago CSA: 134
Hopefully it helps answers questions about Toronto and Washington and how the two stack up to one another in this sort of thing.
All four areas, by the use of their population counting metric (CSAs for the American ones, GGH for Toronto) are all presently in the same population size range, the smallest (Toronto GGH) is currently over 9.5 million people and the largest (Chicago CSA) is currently just a bit under 9.9 million people. So this is a fair comparison in every manner.
Last edited by Trafalgar Law; 08-22-2019 at 03:45 PM..
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I see, this thread discussion is now a Toronto versus Washington D.C., which one is more international and/or cosmopolitan. I ran the numbers a few years ago.
Hopefully it helps answers questions about Toronto and Washington and how the two stack up to one another in this sort of thing.
All four areas, by the use of their population counting metric (CSAs for the American ones, GGH for Toronto) are all presently in the same population size range, the smallest (Toronto GGH) is currently over 9.5 million people and the largest (Chicago CSA) is currently just a bit under 9.9 million people. So this is a fair comparison in every manner.
Basically the biggest difference I see is obviously the Latin American dominance by DC over Toronto or anywhere in Canada for that matter. It’s where the numbers were absolutely much higher. Toronto’s immigrant numbers are high from lots of European countries and while that is still diverse by nation, is still overwhelmingly white.
Basically the biggest difference I see is obviously the Latin American dominance by DC over Toronto or anywhere in Canada for that matter. It’s where the numbers were absolutely much higher. Toronto’s immigrant numbers are high from lots of European countries and while that is still diverse by nation, is still overwhelmingly white.
It depends on how you measure diversity and the relevance for it. Different people have means to take different approaches with this sort of thing.
For instance, if we go simply by the 6 inhabited continents on the planet such as Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, Oceania, and South America then the answer is pretty cut and dry. You simply total the numbers for each continent and see which place comes out on top. This sort of diversity counting wont answer all questions but it does answer one critical one: are people from around the globe represented in the metropolitan region being compared?
Another person could offer a different perspective. For instance, one-third of the human population is Chinese (1.4 billion people) + Indian (1.4 billion people) and in those two measures, Washington is a massive step behind both Toronto and San Francisco, irrefutably. Therefore it can be presumed that for a third of the world's population, Toronto and San Francisco can be viewed as more likely destinations for their people than Washington, which also has impressive numbers to boot (compared to several like-sized American peers). Likewise, this argument would give precedence to the most populous countries in the world rather than just looking at every country as a unit of equal value with other countries (i.e. China and Belize having the same value because they're both countries, so on).
Another person can introduce another dimension into this as well by bringing in religious diversity into the fold and that would further complicate matters. Outside of the major religions, there are several minor ones like Shinto, Druze, Bahai'i, Jain, and the like that often are never discussed on these boards but would quantify diversity nonetheless.
Then there is the realm of linguistics, languages are often gateways to the thought process and culture of any given society. Therefore it stands to reason that it makes for a great barometer to measure the functionality of diversity in any given place, especially when compared with others.
The point of diversity is to look at different backgrounds that co-exist in an environment with other backgrounds. It essentially means that it is an open-ended question that is prone to different perspectives. All that is there to do is make an argument with facts that can support ones personal viewpoints to the best of its abilities with the facts that are also represented.
I don't have an argument in this, for the record, I posted numbers so that other folks can formulate a perspective and argument all of their own to share with the rest of the forum. Someone else can dig through religious and linguistic diversity statistics, I'm short on time right now.
For example, in my perspective, New York is the most diverse city in North America (and the world while we're at it) because it is the most well-rounded city in the world when it comes to diversity. Whether you go by ethnicity, race, religion, language, or region of origination -- New York does well to represent itself in each and every one of those categories, often at the top of each category. This is a viewpoint of mine that can be explained using facts and figures. Now when it comes to diversity and Toronto, San Francisco, Chicago, and Washington, the case isn't nearly as cut-and-dry or easy to make because they are four areas of nearly equal metropolitan size that have different strong points and weak points in the realm of diversity, internationalism, and cosmopolitanism, if I'm making any sense.
Really it is up to the people that live in them to make the best possible argument for their city as the most diverse and give an explanation, preferably using facts, as to why.
Last edited by Trafalgar Law; 08-22-2019 at 05:27 PM..
Back to the topic, which city has the most to gain from globalization...
Most likely Toronto. It's primary city in a relatively small but open economy (Canada) that has a lot of reliance on a stable international system of trade and governance. If you haven't noticed, the Canadian government is one of the most aggressive/proactive in the world when it comes to negotiating free trade agreements in the likes of NAFTA / USMCA, etc. The recently signed Canada-EU Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) basically set the gold standard for country-to-country free agreements, covering every industry imaginable and with stringent monitoring mechanisms to ensure strong implementation and fair arbitration. All of this is a result of Canada's desire for a stable and open global trade system that it can benefit from, and major Canadian cities like Toronto are a huge beneficiary in this process.
Basically the biggest difference I see is obviously the Latin American dominance by DC over Toronto or anywhere in Canada for that matter. It’s where the numbers were absolutely much higher. Toronto’s immigrant numbers are high from lots of European countries and while that is still diverse by nation, is still overwhelmingly white.
Toronto isn't overwhelmingly white.
As of the last census, the Toronto Census Metropolitan Area was 52 percent vis min and 48 percent white....That means Toronto is more non-white than white (not that there is anything wrong with white), but you are off with your comment.
That only breaks down white vs non white from a racial point of view. From a diversity perspective and based on language, culture and ethnicity - I think the previous posters numbers show Toronto is simply more diverse than D.C - excluding latin.
Toronto is somewhat of an outlier in Canada. It is far more diverse than the rest of the country. It acts as its own sort of microcosm in that regard. That all said, Canada is now simply more of an immigration country than the U.S, and is taking in a lot more in representative terms. Over time the overall representative gap could close, but in the case of Toronto alone, it already is more culturally/ethnically diverse than every U.S city except NYC.
The vast majority of the 3 million vis mins in T.O have only been planted here in the last 60 years - same with a large chunk of the white communities ie Portuguese, Italians, Ukrainians etc. Toronto was overwhelmingly anglo white.... in the 1950's.. Another thing to account for is that a big chunk of your vis min population - especially the established African American population in the U.S and your city/metro, have been firmly planted in the U.S for many many generations and have less of a connection to their ancestral home.
As of the last census, the Toronto Census Metropolitan Area was 52 percent vis min and 48 percent white....That means Toronto is more non-white than white (not that there is anything wrong with white), but you are off with your comment.
That only breaks down white vs non white from a racial point of view. From a diversity perspective and based on language, culture and ethnicity - I think the previous posters numbers show Toronto is simply more diverse than D.C - excluding latin.
Toronto is somewhat of an outlier in Canada. It is far more diverse than the rest of the country. It acts as its own sort of microcosm in that regard. That all said, Canada is now simply more of an immigrant country than the U.S and is taking in a lot more in representative terms so over time the overall gap could close but in the case of Toronto alone - it already is more diverse than every U.S city except NYC.
There it is .... Toronto next taking on NYC .... then the World. If besting NYC has anyone left to best. THE BOLD SAYS IT ALL.
But thread is on City with MOST to gain too.
So too.... we now know Canada's MERIT (By education preferences) system on immigration. Much less (very few) uneducated immigrants have a chance. Try as a Nanny maybe .... or Canada claims to take more refugees then the US .... that Trump refused. So that makes it a more humane Nation then the US. Read it to before ..... The illegal immigrants we just won't count the US has.
There is a active thread going in the Canada forum.
To the extent that globalization undermines the relevance and power of the nation-state, DC arguably has the most to lose from globalization. Right now decisions made in DC have global ramifications in a way that decisions made in Ottawa or Canberra largely don't. DC's has a much bigger MSA than most cities, but absent the government it isn't a premier cultural, financial or commercial capital.
There it is .... Toronto next taking on NYC .... then the World. If besting NYC has anyone left to best.
It is demonstrably factual, that Toronto is the most culturally and ethnically diverse metropolitan area in Canada and the U.S except for NYC. This does have a connection to the thread. That diversity and those large immigrant diaspora's, do form a big part of its globalization. They have economic ties to many places, they have cultural and family ties. This is why NYC and Toronto have the most internationally connected airports in N.A. - JFK and YYZ. C'mon man this isn't rocket science. I'm not saying here that Toronto has a larger GDP than Chicago or S.F - I'm saying in terms of diversity across all areas though - it is at the top of the diversity spectrum minus NYC.
I'm not saying S.F or Houston or D.C aren't diverse, they are just not as much as NYC or Toronto. What I am writing shouldn't be contentious but apparently it pushes buttons for whatever reason
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But thread is on MOST to gain. So too we now know Canada's MERIT (By education preferences) system on immigration. Much less uneducated immigrants have a chance. Try as a Nanny maybe .... or Canada claims to refugees the US by Trump refused.
Well I guess we could say that Cedar Rapids Iowa, one of the whitest cities in America could stand to benefit most from globalization. All they need is 50 Nannies from the Philippines and 50 from Central America and voila - most to gain.
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There is a active thread going in the Canada forum.
Apparently some people simply don't like to discuss facts and trends about cities in a forum called City Data..
One of these days you are going to rid yourself of this immature and inflammatory/nationalistic commentary and maturely discuss issues. I don't mind having some fun but man - when you are so off with things and when I know you don't have to be is just
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THE BOLD SAYS IT ALL. 
