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View Poll Results: The Bay Area is structurally...
the most unique...by far with no competition 14 17.07%
the greatest outlier but others come close 14 17.07%
another metro area is actually the most unique (tell which in thread) 31 37.80%
There is no stand out structurally metro area; it doesn't exist 23 28.05%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-04-2019, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Originally Posted by Marlon's Brando View Post
SF on this site is under rated.

You've got folk espousing San Jose as the better and bigger city lol lol lol


San Jose is what it is because of SF lol lol ... Folk who don't understand this need to take some geography lessons lol
How is being underrated? It's almost always rated in the top 5 metro's.

Please stop giving false information. San Francisco-Oakland is what it is today because the tech industry started in San Jose, not the reverse.

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If LA can include most of socal in it's CSA then SF can include the Bay area. Where is this poster LOSFRISCO ? lol


Come on down.
LA's CSA doesn't include most of SoCal. Just Long Beach (which is technically a suburb) and San Bernardino/Riverside to the east. LA is the singular economic heart of the region which is why it's called the Greater Los Angeles in the same way Chicago or NYC are the singular economic hearts of theirs. No ever brings up their CSAs because their individual sphere of influence are so vast

The San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose relationship is not analogues to those cities economies. There is no one singular economically dominate city in the San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose region, considering San Francisco-Oakland itself is a split MSA and San Jose supplies 1/4 of the regions GDP

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Old 08-06-2019, 05:08 AM
 
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Hey OP,

San Francisco and the Bay Area are quite unique because:

The Bay Area (especially the city of San Francisco) has the COOLEST summer (June, July, August) of all the Top 50 largest MSA's in the nation. Many people say that San Francisco doesn't have a real summer.

San Francisco is one of the few cities that have a "wind chill" affect in the Summer!

August 6, 2019 Overnight (3:30am)

San Francisco Feels like temp 54F (wind chill)
Seattle 61F
Denver 65F
Chicago 71F
New York 74F
Orlando 77F
Austin Feels like temp 87F (heat index)
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Marlon's Brando View Post
SF on this site is under rated.

You've got folk espousing San Jose as the better and bigger city lol lol lol


San Jose is what it is because of SF lol lol ... Folk who don't understand this need to take some geography lessons lol


If LA can include most of socal in it's CSA then SF can include the Bay area. Where is this poster LOSFRISCO ? lol


Come on down.
four indisputable words:

SAN FRANCISCO IS BETTER.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Hey OP,

San Francisco and the Bay Area are quite unique because:

The Bay Area (especially the city of San Francisco) has the COOLEST summer (June, July, August) of all the Top 50 largest MSA's in the nation. Many people say that San Francisco doesn't have a real summer.

San Francisco is one of the few cities that have a "wind chill" affect in the Summer!

August 6, 2019 Overnight (3:30am)

San Francisco Feels like temp 54F (wind chill)
Seattle 61F
Denver 65F
Chicago 71F
New York 74F
Orlando 77F
Austin Feels like temp 87F (heat index)


Damned right! And let's take it a step further. It is conceivable that it would be winter in the Richmond and the Sunset along the Pacific while summer is blazing away in the Mission and Potrero Hill along the bay. Outside "The City" also at the same time, seals have frozen into statues on the Farallones in the Pacific while a man in San Jose fried an egg on the sidewalk before he keeled over and died of sun stroke.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by Chimérique View Post
Hey OP,

San Francisco and the Bay Area are quite unique because:

The Bay Area (especially the city of San Francisco) has the COOLEST summer (June, July, August) of all the Top 50 largest MSA's in the nation. Many people say that San Francisco doesn't have a real summer.

San Francisco is one of the few cities that have a "wind chill" affect in the Summer!

August 6, 2019 Overnight (3:30am)

San Francisco Feels like temp 54F (wind chill)
Seattle 61F
Denver 65F
Chicago 71F
New York 74F
Orlando 77F
Austin Feels like temp 87F (heat index)
"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." -Mark Twain
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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four indisputable words:

SAN FRANCISCO IS BETTER.
San Jose is better: cleaner, bigger, safer, better weather, better downtown, friendlier and main economic hub
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Old 08-06-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Chimérique View Post
Hey OP,

San Francisco and the Bay Area are quite unique because:

The Bay Area (especially the city of San Francisco) has the COOLEST summer (June, July, August) of all the Top 50 largest MSA's in the nation. Many people say that San Francisco doesn't have a real summer.

San Francisco is one of the few cities that have a "wind chill" affect in the Summer!

August 6, 2019 Overnight (3:30am)

San Francisco Feels like temp 54F (wind chill)
Seattle 61F
Denver 65F
Chicago 71F
New York 74F
Orlando 77F
Austin Feels like temp 87F (heat index)
As Mark Twain once famously said "The coldest winter I ever spent was summer in San Francisco"

Dang! I reread this and was beaten to the punch.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Originally Posted by Marlon's Brando View Post
SF on this site is under rated.

You've got folk espousing San Jose as the better and bigger city lol lol lol


San Jose is what it is because of SF lol lol ... Folk who don't understand this need to take some geography lessons lol


If LA can include most of socal in it's CSA then SF can include the Bay area. Where is this poster LOSFRISCO ? lol


Come on down.
I'm right here, laughing at this post.

San Diego is the fourth most populous county in the United States.

Despite fast and frequent Metrolink and Amtrak service between SD and LA, no one thinks San Diego should be part of the L.A. CSA.

So no, its not including most of southern California.

The funniest part about this post is how it makes the extreme reach to the LA CSA.

The LA urban area is over 12 million in a very small area.
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Joakim3 View Post
How is being underrated? It's almost always rated in the top 5 metro's.

Please stop giving false information. San Francisco-Oakland is what it is today because the tech industry started in San Jose, not the reverse.



LA's CSA doesn't include most of SoCal. Just Long Beach (which is technically a suburb) and San Bernardino/Riverside to the east. LA is the singular economic heart of the region which is why it's called the Greater Los Angeles in the same way Chicago or NYC are the singular economic hearts of theirs. No ever brings up their CSAs because their individual sphere of influence are so vast

The San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose relationship is not analogues to those cities economies. There is no one singular economically dominate city in the San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose region, considering San Francisco-Oakland itself is a split MSA and San Jose supplies 1/4 of the regions GDP
And I thought the tech industry started in Palo Alto, not San Jose. I believe that the tech industry began because and was driven by some university across the El Camino Real from DT PA. I believe the school is called Cal, but I'm not definite on that one. Something either blue and gold or red and white.

So in essence, Silicon Valley was born on The Peninsula.......which is a term that stands for what was traditionally a string of San Francisco suburbs going down the bayfront of San Mateo County...and the northern portion of Santa Clara.

For the record, Leland was much more oriented to San Francisco than he was to San Jose.
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Old 08-07-2019, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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And I thought the tech industry started in Palo Alto, not San Jose. I believe that the tech industry began because and was driven by some university across the El Camino Real from DT PA. I believe the school is called Cal, but I'm not definite on that one. Something either blue and gold or red and white.

So in essence, Silicon Valley was born on The Peninsula.......which is a term that stands for what was traditionally a string of San Francisco suburbs going down the bayfront of San Mateo County...and the northern portion of Santa Clara.

For the record, Leland was much more oriented to San Francisco than he was to San Jose.
Palo Alto is a suburb of San Jose, but apart from that I don't disagree with you.

That being said while yes, Silicon Valley was born on The Peninsula, San Jose made the tech industry what it is today. The schools attracted all the computer science majors, and it simply became a runway tech bubble in the '90s. Once San Jose monopolized the industry, only then did the tech companies truly start their relentless march up north to San Fran-Oakland
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