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View Poll Results: Most Fascinating of Americas Global Cities, Not Necessarily the Best
Chicago 21 15.33%
New York City 75 54.74%
Los Angeles 41 29.93%
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Old 09-07-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by homeinatx View Post

https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2018t.html

New York, Los Angeles and Chicago are the top three ranked U.S. cities by GAWC
GAWC has nothing to do with what we're talking about. They aren't ranking cities by their "world class" aspects. GAWC measures business connections to the UK, essentially. Why would we care about this? UK is a minor country with smaller economy than California.

 
Old 09-07-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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NYC has lost so much of its luster over the past decade or so...
 
Old 09-07-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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NYC has lost so much of its luster over the past decade or so...
NYC was better off in 2009, during the depths of the Wall Street meltdown, compared to now? LOL...
 
Old 09-07-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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NYC was better off in 2009, during the depths of the Wall Street meltdown, compared to now? LOL...

that has absolutely nothing to do with anything we discuss here. Stop it.
 
Old 09-07-2019, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This ranking has nothing to do with being 'world class btw. LOL.

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Originally Posted by homeinatx View Post
Really...

Here's the link:

https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2018t.html

New York, Los Angeles and Chicago are the top three ranked U.S. cities by GAWC

New York is rated Alpha plus plus, Chicago and Los Angeles Alpha


San Francisco is rated Alpha minus
Yes, they are ALL 'Alpha' Cities.

The US has 7 Alpha Cities, not just 3.

New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, San Francisco, Washington, Houston.

Learn to read.

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You don't like it. Take it up with them..
Oh I could care less about a ranking of the number of office locations of certain companies.
 
Old 09-07-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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If we do care about GaWC at all, the recap for US cities placed in the Alpha category is:

Alpha++:

New York City

Alpha+:

None

Alpha:

Chicago
Los Angeles
Miami

Alpha-:

San Francisco
Washington DC
Houston

San Francisco is placed in a tier than Chicago and Los Angeles--and Miami for that matter. GaWC's not necessarily a great indicator of how world class a city is though since world class itself is a pretty nebulous term. I'd argue that in some ways NYC is the only world class city in the US--that or I'd argue there aren't any world class cities in the US, but the criteria and rubric for that is different for everyone.

For me, Chicago and Los Angeles certainly do feel and look like much larger cities than San Francisco and its surrounding area.

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Old 09-07-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I love your double and triple spacing for added effect to make an A- look wayyyy lower than an A. Haha

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Originally Posted by OyCrumbler View Post

San Francisco is placed in a tier than Chicago and Los Angeles--and Miami for that matter.
Here is the translation: GAWC created a list of certain law firms and accounting firms, and Miami has more branch offices of those firms than SF.

That's what this ranking is.

I personally am way more impressed by this:

Publicly Companies Valued at $10B+

SF MSA: 29 companies
$534.90B Facebook
$416.13B Visa
$224.51B Chevron
$207.75B Wells Fargo
$177.33B Oracle
$132.39B Salesforce
$82.09B Gilead Sciences
$54.16B Uber
$53.51B Prologis
$52.16B Charles Schwab
$47.00B Equinix
$39.82B Ross Stores
$35.11B Twitter
$33.02B Autodesk
$32.94B Lam Research
$29.04B Electronic Arts
$26.80B Digital Realty Trust
$26.48B Square
$20.38B Clorox
$16.81B Twilio
$16.57B Splunk
$16.48B Pinterest
$15.00B First Republic Bank
$13.84B Okta
$13.81B Slack
$13.56B Franklin Resources
$13.03B Lyft
$12.94B BioMarin
$10.00B Bio-Rad

Miami MSA: 6 companies
$105.47B Next Era Energy
$32.75B Carnival Corporation
$29.68B SBA Communications
$22.78B Royal Caribbean Cruises
$16.75B Lennar Homes
$11.24B Norwegian Cruise Lines
 
Old 09-07-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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I love your double and triple spacing for added effect to make an A- look wayyyy lower than an A. Haha



Here is the translation: GAWC created a list of certain law firms and accounting firms, and Miami has more branch offices of those firms than SF.

That's what this ranking is.

I personally am way more impressed by this:

Publicly Companies Valued at $10B+

SF MSA: 29 companies
$534.90B Facebook
$416.13B Visa
$224.51B Chevron
$207.75B Wells Fargo
$177.33B Oracle
$132.39B Salesforce
$82.09B Gilead Sciences
$54.16B Uber
$53.51B Prologis
$52.16B Charles Schwab
$47.00B Equinix
$39.82B Ross Stores
$35.11B Twitter
$33.02B Autodesk
$32.94B Lam Research
$29.04B Electronic Arts
$26.80B Digital Realty Trust
$26.48B Square
$20.38B Clorox
$16.81B Twilio
$16.57B Splunk
$16.48B Pinterest
$15.00B First Republic Bank
$13.84B Okta
$13.81B Slack
$13.56B Franklin Resources
$13.03B Lyft
$12.94B BioMarin
$10.00B Bio-Rad

Miami MSA: 6 companies
$105.47B Next Era Energy
$32.75B Carnival Corporation
$29.68B SBA Communications
$22.78B Royal Caribbean Cruises
$16.75B Lennar Homes
$11.24B Norwegian Cruise Lines
I think Miami just lucks out a bit with the criteria vs SF getting shafted. It being with Houston and DC makes sense IMO Miami being above any of them does not.
 
Old 09-07-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I think Miami just lucks out a bit with the criteria vs SF getting shafted. It being with Houston and DC makes sense IMO Miami being above any of them does not.
I actually dont mind, I just found Oy's triple spacing to make an A look sooo much higher than an A- to be hilarious.
 
Old 09-07-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
I love your double and triple spacing for added effect to make an A- look wayyyy lower than an A. Haha



Here is the translation: GAWC created a list of certain law firms and accounting firms, and Miami has more branch offices of those firms than SF.

That's what this ranking is.

I personally am way more impressed by this:

Publicly Companies Valued at $10B+

SF MSA: 29 companies
$534.90B Facebook
$416.13B Visa
$224.51B Chevron
$207.75B Wells Fargo
$177.33B Oracle
$132.39B Salesforce
$82.09B Gilead Sciences
$54.16B Uber
$53.51B Prologis
$52.16B Charles Schwab
$47.00B Equinix
$39.82B Ross Stores
$35.11B Twitter
$33.02B Autodesk
$32.94B Lam Research
$29.04B Electronic Arts
$26.80B Digital Realty Trust
$26.48B Square
$20.38B Clorox
$16.81B Twilio
$16.57B Splunk
$16.48B Pinterest
$15.00B First Republic Bank
$13.84B Okta
$13.81B Slack
$13.56B Franklin Resources
$13.03B Lyft
$12.94B BioMarin
$10.00B Bio-Rad

Miami MSA: 6 companies
$105.47B Next Era Energy
$32.75B Carnival Corporation
$29.68B SBA Communications
$22.78B Royal Caribbean Cruises
$16.75B Lennar Homes
$11.24B Norwegian Cruise Lines
I’m pretty sure that double and triple spacing in this forum software gets eliminated into at most a linebreak for text in one line and then a linebreak for a single empty line. It’s why people use dots for effects to make a distance. I did equidistant spacing for every tier going down with a space between tier names and the cities within that tier. I don’t know what triple-spacing means to you in that context.

Regardless, I don’t consider myself as someone who thinks GaWC is a particularly great indicator for how much of an “alpha global city” a place is and I think pretty much anyone would consider the placement of the Miami area over the Bay Area to be pretty odd and not just in the sense of number of public companies with high valuations, but on a whole host of metrics.

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