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Old 09-23-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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This is a pretty ignorant statement. Duval county contains 950k people, while Jacksonville's urbanized area is now closing in on 1.2 million people, and it's metro area is over 1.6 million people. There are a couple hundred thousand people living in developed areas, right outside of Jacksonville’s borders. That doesn’t include exurban areas, or the developed areas surrounding St Augustine. With bordering cities like Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Ponte Vedra, and Orange Park, it's simply illogical to conclude that it's "suburbs" are all "backwoods and country as you can get".
True. That includes cities like Palm Valley, Orange Park, and Lakeside. I only meant in the traditional sense because Jax is quite different than most cities with respect to borders.
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Old 09-23-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NYC/LA
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For LA to reach NYC population, it would need to expand to cover the Southern third of LA county minus Catalina Island. Catalina Island and most of the the Northern 2/3 of LA County are relatively lightly populated, with under a million people. So the dividing line would basically be everything in LA County South of the Santa Susanna and San Gabriel Mountains. It would include the Verdugo, San Fernando, San Gabriel, and Pomona Valleys as well as the LA Basin except for the part in Orange County. It would exclude the Antelope Valley, Santa Clarita Valley, Angeles National Forest, Los Padres National Forest, and Catalina Island.

Area would be enormous, somewhere around 1000-1500 sq miles, population would be somewhere around 8.5 - 9 million. So density would be 5,670-9,000 people per square mile, so in range of current density of LA at 8,000/sq mile. Decent, but still far below NYC's almost 28,000/sq mile.
LA would need to add a little over half of LA County's 88 incorporated cities, around 46 cities, to just surpass NYC's population of 8.4M.

Los Angeles 4,040,079 + the cities listed below (by population) comes to around 8.43M.

Long Beach 475,013
Santa Clarita 218,103
Glendale 206,283
Lancaster 161,604
Palmdale 157,854
Pomona 154,310
Torrance 148,054
Pasadena 146,312
El Monte 117,204
Downey 114,212
Inglewood 112,549
West Covina 108,116
Norwalk 106,744
Burbank 105,952
Compton 98,711
South Gate 96,777
Carson 93,604
Santa Monica 93,593
Hawthorne 87,854
Whittier 87,526
Alhambra 86,931
Lakewood 81,352
Bellflower 78,308
Baldwin Park 77,286
Lynwood 71,343
Redondo Beach 68,473
Montebello 64,247
Pico Rivera 64,033
Monterey Park 61,828
Gardena 61,042
Huntington Park 59,350
Arcadia 58,891
Diamond Bar 57,495
Paramount 55,497
Rosemead 55,097
Glendora 52,122
Azusa 51,313
Cerritos 50,711
La Mirada 49,558
Covina 48,876
Bell Gardens 42,972
Rancho Palos Verdes 42,560
San Gabriel 41,178
La Puente 40,795
Culver City 40,173
Monrovia 38,529

Incidentally, putting this list together made me realize the relatively small population of some of LA's more famous cities/neighborhoods, like West Hollywood 36,660, Manhattan Beach 35,922, Beverly Hills 34,627, and Malibu 12,046.
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You know, alot of people outside of Texas falsely accuse Texas of the same.
Who has ever claimed Texas cities don't have suburbs?
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:14 PM
 
Location: OC
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Who has ever claimed Texas cities don't have suburbs?
The backwoods and country part
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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Phoenix could add two cities and jump to 4th.

PHX 1,700,000 5th largest
Mesa 500,000
Chandler 250,000
Total: 2,450,000 versus Houston: 2,325,000 4th largest
That would make it almost as big as Jacksonville at 720 square miles.
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:18 AM
 
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This is a pretty ignorant statement. Duval county contains 950k people, while Jacksonville's urbanized area is now closing in on 1.2 million people, and it's metro area is over 1.6 million people. There are a couple hundred thousand people living in developed areas, right outside of Jacksonville’s borders. That doesn’t include exurban areas, or the developed areas surrounding St Augustine. With bordering cities like Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Ponte Vedra, and Orange Park, it's simply illogical to conclude that it's "suburbs" are all "backwoods and country as you can get".
It’s a bit of an exaggeration but most cities have 25-33% of their metro in the city proper Jacksonville is over 55%.
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:23 AM
 
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Houston would not even need to annex another city. All it would have to do is incorporate all of it's EJT's (The unincorporated areas of Harris County and it would probably be the 2nd most populated City in the Country.
That is actually much more possible than annexing another incorporated city. That would be a ridiculous thing to do though. I think Harris County would be better off it it was all incorporated into different Cities.
For example the unincorporated areas of Katy have more than 300,000 people. That is a very large area for being Unincorporated. NW Harris County has almost 500,000 people and is entirely unincorporated.
Same with Clark County Nevada. Actually there's approximately 900,000 people living in 6 unincorporated communities immediately surrounding Las Vegas. A full merger would give Las Vegas a 2020 census population of around 1,565,000 in 305 square miles making it the nation's 7th largest city.
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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It’s a bit of an exaggeration but most cities have 25-33% of their metro in the city proper Jacksonville is over 55%.
It was more than an exaggeration. The claim was that “anything remotely suburban” was located inside Jacksonville itself.
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