Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-22-2019, 04:25 PM
 
8,276 posts, read 11,913,577 times
Reputation: 10080

Advertisements

It's worth repeating: Boston is not a rowhouse city. It's better known as a triple-decker city, but this type doesn't dominate the city like the rowhouse does in Philly and Baltimore...

However, if there ever was a stereotypical triple-decker city, it would have to be neighboring Somerville, which has entire streets made up of them...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-22-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
21,629 posts, read 12,754,191 times
Reputation: 11221
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duderino View Post
Yes, Baltimore does deserve its due for its significant rowhouse form. I recalled this graphic from a few years back demonstrating the Philly and Baltimore rowhouse prowess, with an edge to Philadelphia:



https://www.phillymag.com/property/2...f-the-rowhome/

I wish Boston had been included, but if it were, it would probably be similar to NYC in overall housing proportion that could be classified as a true "rowhome."
Go further down in the story there is a graphic with Boston is it and yes it is very similar to NYC just with more people in 3-6 unit dwellings . Very few single family homes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2019, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
12,163 posts, read 8,002,089 times
Reputation: 10134
Oh I guess if we included brownstones, than obviously Boston would win hands down.

Again.. Rowhome vs Brownstone isnt very clear.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2019, 06:24 PM
 
6,222 posts, read 3,597,419 times
Reputation: 5055
Quote:
Originally Posted by masssachoicetts View Post
Oh I guess if we included brownstones, than obviously Boston would win hands down.

Again.. Rowhome vs Brownstone isnt very clear.
Brownstones that are connected are definitely rowhomes
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
17,161 posts, read 15,373,458 times
Reputation: 23749
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foamposite View Post
Brownstones that are connected are definitely rowhomes
If that's the case, I certainly think Boston has the most attractive of them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-23-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
12,845 posts, read 22,014,769 times
Reputation: 14129
Quote:
Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
Just saying.

There aren't clear distinctions between a rowhouse and townhouse/brownstone.
There aren't. And Back Bay certainly has plenty of homes that I would call rowhouses, even if they're not as uniform as South End's Bowfronts, or the rowhouses all over Philly, Baltimore, etc. But Back Bay is also full of larger multi-unit buildings that aren't rowhouses by any definition, even if they kind of look like them at first glance (here's a few good examples that look like rowhouses, but are really larger, and mostly multi-unit). South End is almost entirely rowhouses and it's the only Boston neighborhood that is truly what I would call a neighborhood of rowhouses. Beacon Hill has some good examples, and you'll find some in Charlestown, and a few examples in some other spots. But even by the loosest definition and most generous classifications of "rowhouses" in Boston's neighborhoods, rowhouses are not nearly as large a part of Boston's DNA as the other cities on the list.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-23-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
7,270 posts, read 10,593,477 times
Reputation: 8823
Quote:
Originally Posted by lrfox View Post
There aren't. And Back Bay certainly has plenty of homes that I would call rowhouses, even if they're not as uniform as South End's Bowfronts, or the rowhouses all over Philly, Baltimore, etc. But Back Bay is also full of larger multi-unit buildings that aren't rowhouses by any definition, even if they kind of look like them at first glance (here's a few good examples that look like rowhouses, but are really larger, and mostly multi-unit). South End is almost entirely rowhouses and it's the only Boston neighborhood that is truly what I would call a neighborhood of rowhouses. Beacon Hill has some good examples, and you'll find some in Charlestown, and a few examples in some other spots. But even by the loosest definition and most generous classifications of "rowhouses" in Boston's neighborhoods, rowhouses are not nearly as large a part of Boston's DNA as the other cities on the list.
That's a good point I hadn't thought about. Boston's "rowhomes" are arguably the largest if configured as individual units, so especially in a city with a massive shortage of for-sale housing, they're much more likely to be converted to multi-family.

This has happened in Center City Philadelphia to some degree in some of the more mansion-y rowhouse neighborhoods, but it's not nearly as common as in Boston and New York.

Last edited by Duderino; 10-23-2019 at 08:11 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-23-2019, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
504 posts, read 616,136 times
Reputation: 306
Most of the buildings in Back Bay did start as single family housing but because of there size were divided into condos and apartments. On the other hand Beacon Hill and the South End still have many single family row homes. This link shows a map made by the city of Boston showing buildings by land use in the city: Scene Viewer
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-23-2019, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
14,166 posts, read 9,058,487 times
Reputation: 10506
Quote:
Originally Posted by lrfox View Post
There aren't. And Back Bay certainly has plenty of homes that I would call rowhouses, even if they're not as uniform as South End's Bowfronts, or the rowhouses all over Philly, Baltimore, etc. But Back Bay is also full of larger multi-unit buildings that aren't rowhouses by any definition, even if they kind of look like them at first glance (here's a few good examples that look like rowhouses, but are really larger, and mostly multi-unit). South End is almost entirely rowhouses and it's the only Boston neighborhood that is truly what I would call a neighborhood of rowhouses. Beacon Hill has some good examples, and you'll find some in Charlestown, and a few examples in some other spots. But even by the loosest definition and most generous classifications of "rowhouses" in Boston's neighborhoods, rowhouses are not nearly as large a part of Boston's DNA as the other cities on the list.
Duderino alluded to this, but just like that other Bostonian posted a photo of "rowhouses" that were clearly built as multi-unit apartment buildings, the buildings on Beacon Street in the foreground of the Street View you posted are just what Duderino described: buildings that began life as single-family residences for the well-to-do and got carved up into apartments after some years.

You can find identical rows of houses-turned-apartments on Spruce Street near Rittenhouse Square in Philadelphia. They don't have the fire-escape balconies on the front, however; Philadelphia's fire code didn't allow fire escapes to be provided in this fashion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-23-2019, 12:21 PM
 
5,016 posts, read 3,916,343 times
Reputation: 4528
Quote:
Originally Posted by masssachoicetts View Post
Oh I guess if we included brownstones, than obviously Boston would win hands down.

Again.. Rowhome vs Brownstone isnt very clear.
Brownstones are really just a type of row home. Brownstones are just a term for a connected row of houses that have brick or have a red/brown façade.

When I think row home, I think Federal style that you'd see in Society/Beacon Hill.

Society Hill, Philly: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9438...!7i5504!8i2752

Beacon Hill, Boston: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3575...!7i8192!8i4096

The reality is, a row home can have varying architectural styles and facades by definition. But, for those people saying Boston is the answer, I would say that's not accurate. By %, Boston has far less row homes (regardless of style) than Philly. You can prefer the differing styles in Boston vs. the more uniform federal row homes of Philly, but they're certainly more prominent in Philly than in Boston.

Boston Back Bay: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3544...7i16384!8i8192

Boston South End: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3418...7i16384!8i8192

Is Back Bay compromised of row homes? South End? Back Bay in particular is compromised of many different housing types including townhouses and apartment buildings, that aren't truly row homes at all.

EDIT: Just saw the above post, mine is a bit reiterative
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top