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Old 11-16-2019, 04:27 PM
 
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9 out of ten times spending habits is the reason why people are broke. But in America everyone is entitled so they don’t see nothing wrong with having bad spending habits because they “deserve”. Instead we just blame the government, high cost of living and everything else.
Please don't downplay the fact that the cost of housing, education, medicine, etc. has skyrocketed in relation to salaries and benefits since the 1980s.

Our government has been ineptly run and our policies actively encourage reckless consumption over savings or production. America decided to make an economy based on consumption instead of production. You reap what you sow.
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Old 11-16-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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All of these scores are so low. Are these numbers really accurate?
They make me feel bad for the country.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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All of these scores are so low. Are these numbers really accurate?
They make me feel bad for the country.

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https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-e...-credit-score/
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: California
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Actually, the reason why states such as Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi have poor average credit ratings relative to states such as Iowa, Minnesota and New Hampshire is largely due to demographics. Of course, states in the South have much larger African-American populations than states in New England and the Midwest. In addition to having a lower average incomes than European-Americans and less access to family capital and wealth (e.g., assets, gifts, inheritance, trust funds, etc.), African-Americans are also much more likely to rely on credit cards to make ends meet, pay high interest rates and suffer more negative consequences of debt.

Source: https://www.naacp.org/the-challenge-...-middle-class/
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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The states with the highest average credit scores seems to have the following characteristics: population growth is slow compared to the rest of the country. I also imagine that the population in most of the states is older than average as well. It would seem like that combination would result in higher credits scores.

A large percentage of people moving to higher growth states do so out of economic necessity which could correlate to lower credit scores.
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Actually, the reason why states such as Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi have poor average credit ratings relative to states such as Iowa, Minnesota and New Hampshire is largely due to demographics. Of course, states in the South have much larger African-American populations than states in New England and the Midwest. In addition to having a lower average incomes than European-Americans and less access to family capital and wealth (e.g., assets, gifts, inheritance, trust funds, etc.), African-Americans are also much more likely to rely on credit cards to make ends meet, pay high interest rates and suffer more negative consequences of debt.

Source: https://www.naacp.org/the-challenge-...-middle-class/
Except, White Americans from the South similarly have low credit scores. States like West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee are near the bottom as well, and they aren't heavily African American. Sure, there's also a correlation with race, but its not the only factor. Otherwise, states like New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California would be much lower than the national average.
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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The purpose of federal, state, and local housing policy and subsidy of homeownership was to (1) house Americans and (2) provide some form of stable savings mechanism. The housing market was never meant to be some high-risk/reward commodity and it really should never be that. When it comes to sheltering Americans (which many consider a basic human right), our housing policies should be solely focused on providing shelter to all people, not subsidizing profits. Unfortunately, greed supported by policy/subsidy has led our society to have an abundance of empty mansions and also an abundance of homeless people.
I wish I could rep this post more than once. The problem with the way the American system is set up is whenever there is a subsidy in _____, the market will factor the subsidy in and readjust the pricing based on the subsidy. You see this with higher minimum wage areas, where everything simply costs more.

Our financial education system needs to emphasize more, not only saving, but light investments to not only reinvest in the market, but as a mechanism for wealth preservation. I used to think you could save your way to wealth, but due to things like inflation, that's a folly. I know it sounds like I literally just read "Rich Dad Poor Dad", but the one takeaway that the author had really is acquiring assets. Real assets, things that make you money without you having to really do anything.

We sort of misconstrue that an asset is, and better financial education could help out with that. Homes being people's only """asset""" needs to really be reconceptualized, not only on a personal level, but on a governmental one too.

But I guess having wild boom and bust cycles due to a crazy credit market is cool too.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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What is the news here..poor people have bad credit? Who would have thought...
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:06 AM
 
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It's important to see this also sorted from high to low. The only state in the top 10 in the west is Hawaii. 6 of the top 10 are in the Midwest.


Minnesota: 709
Vermont: 702
New Hampshire: 701
South Dakota: 700
Massachusetts: 699
North Dakota: 697
Wisconsin: 696
Iowa: 695
Nebraska: 695
Hawaii: 693
Washington: 693
Connecticut: 690
Maine: 689
Montana: 689
Colorado: 688
New York: 688
Oregon: 688
Pennsylvania: 687
Rhode Island: 687
New Jersey: 686
North Carolina: 686
Illinois: 683
Utah: 683
Idaho: 681
California: 680
Kansas: 680
Virginia: 680
Ohio: 678
Wyoming: 678
Michigan: 677
Missouri: 675
Delaware: 672
Maryland: 672
DC: 670
Arizona: 669
Alaska: 668
Florida: 668
Indiana: 667
Kentucky: 663
Tennessee: 662
New Mexico: 659
West Virginia: 658
Arkansas: 657
South Carolina: 657
Oklahoma: 656
Texas: 656
Nevada: 655
Alabama: 654
Georgia: 654
Louisiana: 650
Mississippi: 647
Indiana's got an interesting position there.
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Old 11-22-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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A few of the bottom states are known for having fine happy local governments. A surprising and harshly punitive fine could lead to credit problems.

Also, some states are better for payday loan companies that encourage cycles of debt.
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