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Can you show that Denver was doing before most cities?
It would be hard to find a citation that says "Champaign, Ill will not celebrate Cinco de Mayo this year". Denver has been doing it ever since we moved here in 1980.
Day of the Dead seems to have picked up steam more recently, but it was always here. Again, I don't think you'll find any citations for "We are not celebrating Day of the Dead in Champaign this year".
I noticed I havent done total foreign born numbers. Ill do one post for total population and another for growth from 2013-2018:
Total Foreign born population as of 2018:
New York: 5,803,801
Los Angeles: 4,834,720
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 2,552,188
Chicago: 1,680,196
Houston: 1,648,798
San Francisco: 1,443,230
Washington DC: 1,427,734
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,414,578
Riverside: 987,978
Boston: 943,500
Atlanta: 824,050
San Diego: 790,023
San Jose: 768,800
Seattle: 759,002
Phoenix: 695,508
Philadelphia: 694,072
Las Vegas: 496,521
Orlando: 491,138
Sacramento: 455,073
Tampa: 451,021
Detroit: 446,559
Minneapolis: 395,865
Denver: 349,839
Austin: 326,395
Portland: 323,763
San Antonio: 304,642
Baltimore: 290,528
Charlotte: 260,727
Providence: 214,756
Columbus: 185,750
Nashville: 164,288
Hartford: 161,452
Salt Lake City: 158,979
Raleigh: 158,969
Jacksonville: 157,921
Kansas City: 149,650
Indianapolis: 142,553
St. Louis: 141,894
Cleveland: 122,573
Milwaukee: 121,107
Virginia Beach: 118,471
Oklahoma City: 114,317
Cincinnati: 113,366
Richmond: 107,478
New Orleans: 98,386
Pittsburgh: 92,299
Buffalo: 81,120
Louisville: 78,608
Memphis: 73,720
Memphis: 44,111
What is the basis for the numbers? CSA or MSA? I ask because for NYC, 5.4Million is far more than any other metro area. I would have thought metro L.A. would be higher but if you add Riverside, L.A. would be equivalent. I am sure by 2030, DFW and Houston will be top 5, surpassing D.C. and Chicago. I think Miami will lose some people due to lack of land, possibly flooding to other Florida cities.
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What is the basis for the numbers? CSA or MSA? I ask because for NYC, 5.4Million is far more than any other metro area. I would have thought metro L.A. would be higher but if you add Riverside, L.A. would be equivalent. I am sure by 2030, DFW and Houston will be top 5, surpassing D.C. and Chicago. I think Miami will lose some people due to lack of land, possibly flooding to other Florida cities.
Yeah...Denver is still a white culture center. That doesn’t mean minorities can’t be elected officials. You kinda shot yourself in the foot with point one because Cinco de Mayo isn’t even celebrated in Mexico. It’s pretty much an excuse for Americans to get wasted and eat Tex Mex. in Mexico, September 16 is the celebrated holiday. Denver’s largest demographic growth comes from whites and its culture caters mainly to whites. Austin is more diverse than Denver and its a white culture magnet too.
Definitely does, although surprisingly not in the top 10 for metro areas. These are the numbers for 2018 by MSA unless otherwise noted. This is people who noted they're 100% Mexican descent, born anywhere in the world. In any case, Denver has over 500,000 people of Mexican descent (not counting those who are mixed). That's very big even if it's not top 10 in the US:
1. Los Angeles MSA: 4,615,270 people
2. Riverside, CA MSA: 2,067,425 people
3. Houston MSA: 1,937,031 people
4. Dallas MSA: 1,788,013 people
5. Chicago MSA: 1,686,742 people
6. Phoenix MSA: 1,302,367 people
7. San Antonio MSA: 1,235,394 people
8. San Diego MSA: 1,010,075 people
9. McAllen, TX MSA: 744,991 people (2017 numbers)
10. San Francisco MSA: 675,352 people
11. El Paso MSA: 653,895 people (2017 numbers)
12. New York City MSA: 603,616 people
13. Austin MSA: 579,514 people
14. Las Vegas MSA: 527,011 people 15. Denver MSA: 508,214 people
16. San Jose MSA: 442,039 people
17. Sacramento MSA: 416,385 people
18. Atlanta MSA: 352,433 people
19. Tucson, AZ MSA: 350,607 people
20. Oxnard, CA MSA: 328,867 people
21. Stockton, CA MSA: 286,091 people
22. Seattle MSA: 278,561 people
23. Albuquerque MSA: 249,709 people
24. Portland MSA: 230,119 people
25. Santa Maria, CA MSA: 183,339 people
26. Salt Lake City MSA: 156,490 people
27. Miami MSA: 155,388 people
28. Oklahoma City MSA: 154,574 people
29. Kansas City MSA: 151,954 people
30. Detroit MSA: 140,558 people
31. Minneapolis MSA: 137,918 people
32. Washington DC MSA: 136,588 people
33. Charlotte MSA: 120,791 people
34. Tampa MSA: 114,504 people
35. Philadelphia MSA: 113,149 people
36. Milwaukee MSA: 111,374 people
37. Indianapolis MSA: 95,544 people
38. Vallejo, CA MSA: 93,551 people
39. Raleigh, NC MSA: 82,972 people
40. Nashville MSA: 81,733 people
41. Orlando MSA: 79,125 people
42. Tulsa MSA: 78,549 people
43. Killeen, TX MSA: 76,154 people
44. Omaha MSA: 71,368 people (2017 numbers)
45. Ogden, UT MSA: 63,771 people
46. Lakeland, FL MSA: 58,491 people
47. St. Louis MSA: 54,267 people
48. Memphis MSA: 53,853 people
49. Winston-Salem, NC MSA: 47,846 people
50. North Port, FL MSA: 46,567 people
51. Ogden, UT MSA: 45,292 people
52. Baltimore MSA: 44,076 people
53. Columbus, OH MSA: 44,049 people
54. Cape Coral, FL MSA: 42,517 people
55. Virginia Beach MSA: 40,777 people
56. Naples, FL MSA: 38,473 people
57. Boston MSA: 36,035 people
58. Cincinnati MSA: 34,514 people
59. Des Moines MSA: 33,875 people (2017 numbers)
60. Louisville MSA: 30,782 people
61. Cleveland MSA: 29,749 people
62. Greenville, SC MSA: 28,684 people
63. Jacksonville MSA: 25,644 people
64. New Orleans MSA: 22,614 people
65. Columbia, SC MSA: 22,458 people
66. Richmond, VA MSA: 22,036 people
67. Madison, WI MSA: 21,967 people
68. Port St. Lucie MSA: 21,605 people
69. Bridgeport, CT: 20,503 people
70. Fayetteville, NC MSA: 18,679 people
71. Charleston, SC MSA: 18,631 people
72. New Haven, CT MSA: 18,230 people
73. Deltona, FL MSA: 14,641 people
74. Providence MSA: 14,629 people
75. Pittsburgh MSA: 14,310 people
76. Hartford, CT MSA: 13,016 people
77. Palm Bay, FL MSA: 12,898 people
78. Rochester, NY MSA: 8076 people
Looking at those two most recent sets of figures, and I would really need to go back to the figures on total foreign-born population to really draw this conclusion, but just these bring it home to me:
It seems that Pittsburgh is an incredibly white big city.
I suspect that if we separated the city of Pittsburgh - or Allegheny County - from the other counties that make up the Pittsburgh MSA, the whiteness of the surrounding counties would be even greater.
I'm a little loath to call the surrounding counties "suburban," because most of them also had their own industry, usually related in some way to the dominant steelmaking industry. In sharp contrast to Pittsburgh itself, none of these communities have managed to find something to replace the jobs and sense of purpose steel used to provide. That in turn IMO goes a long way to explain why President Trump carried Southwestern Pennsylvania by a large margin in 2016: Pittsburgh itself is very much on the mend, but the rest of its metropolitan region remains part of the Land of the Forgotten. And since very few immigrants are drawn to the Forgotten places, there's very little to leaven that yearning for what was, for what was remains far better than what is now.
Definitely does, although surprisingly not in the top 10 for metro areas. These are the numbers for 2018 by MSA unless otherwise noted. This is people who noted they're 100% Mexican descent, born anywhere in the world. In any case, Denver has over 500,000 people of Mexican descent (not counting those who are mixed). That's very big even if it's not top 10 in the US:
1. Los Angeles MSA: 4,615,270 people
2. Riverside, CA MSA: 2,067,425 people
3. Houston MSA: 1,937,031 people
4. Dallas MSA: 1,788,013 people
5. Chicago MSA: 1,686,742 people
6. Phoenix MSA: 1,302,367 people
7. San Antonio MSA: 1,235,394 people
8. San Diego MSA: 1,010,075 people
9. McAllen, TX MSA: 744,991 people (2017 numbers)
10. San Francisco MSA: 675,352 people
11. El Paso MSA: 653,895 people (2017 numbers)
12. New York City MSA: 603,616 people
13. Austin MSA: 579,514 people
14. Las Vegas MSA: 527,011 people 15. Denver MSA: 508,214 people
16. San Jose MSA: 442,039 people
17. Sacramento MSA: 416,385 people
18. Atlanta MSA: 352,433 people
19. Tucson, AZ MSA: 350,607 people
20. Oxnard, CA MSA: 328,867 people
21. Stockton, CA MSA: 286,091 people
22. Seattle MSA: 278,561 people
23. Albuquerque MSA: 249,709 people
24. Portland MSA: 230,119 people
25. Santa Maria, CA MSA: 183,339 people
26. Salt Lake City MSA: 156,490 people
27. Miami MSA: 155,388 people
28. Oklahoma City MSA: 154,574 people
29. Kansas City MSA: 151,954 people
30. Detroit MSA: 140,558 people
31. Minneapolis MSA: 137,918 people
32. Washington DC MSA: 136,588 people
33. Charlotte MSA: 120,791 people
34. Tampa MSA: 114,504 people
35. Philadelphia MSA: 113,149 people
36. Milwaukee MSA: 111,374 people
37. Indianapolis MSA: 95,544 people
38. Vallejo, CA MSA: 93,551 people
39. Raleigh, NC MSA: 82,972 people
40. Nashville MSA: 81,733 people
41. Orlando MSA: 79,125 people
42. Tulsa MSA: 78,549 people
43. Killeen, TX MSA: 76,154 people
44. Omaha MSA: 71,368 people (2017 numbers)
45. Ogden, UT MSA: 63,771 people
46. Lakeland, FL MSA: 58,491 people
47. St. Louis MSA: 54,267 people
48. Memphis MSA: 53,853 people
49. Winston-Salem, NC MSA: 47,846 people
50. North Port, FL MSA: 46,567 people
51. Ogden, UT MSA: 45,292 people
52. Baltimore MSA: 44,076 people
53. Columbus, OH MSA: 44,049 people
54. Cape Coral, FL MSA: 42,517 people
55. Virginia Beach MSA: 40,777 people
56. Naples, FL MSA: 38,473 people
57. Boston MSA: 36,035 people
58. Cincinnati MSA: 34,514 people
59. Des Moines MSA: 33,875 people (2017 numbers)
60. Louisville MSA: 30,782 people
61. Cleveland MSA: 29,749 people
62. Greenville, SC MSA: 28,684 people
63. Jacksonville MSA: 25,644 people
64. New Orleans MSA: 22,614 people
65. Columbia, SC MSA: 22,458 people
66. Richmond, VA MSA: 22,036 people
67. Madison, WI MSA: 21,967 people
68. Port St. Lucie MSA: 21,605 people
69. Bridgeport, CT: 20,503 people
70. Fayetteville, NC MSA: 18,679 people
71. Charleston, SC MSA: 18,631 people
72. New Haven, CT MSA: 18,230 people
73. Deltona, FL MSA: 14,641 people
74. Providence MSA: 14,629 people
75. Pittsburgh MSA: 14,310 people
76. Hartford, CT MSA: 13,016 people
77. Palm Bay, FL MSA: 12,898 people
78. Rochester, NY MSA: 8076 people
9 cities above Denver (in bold), including 8 of the top 10, are also larger than Denver in total population. San Antonio, San Diego and Austin are not *that* much smaller than Denver, either.
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