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Old 12-16-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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^ john chaney > bill cosby.
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Old 12-16-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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There has been a lot of talk about foreign born Mexican populations here. Below are the growth numbers between 2013-2018, however there is a LOT of decline:

Riverside: 20,344
Detroit: 13,414
Phoenix: 12,552
Las Vegas: 7,912
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,648
Boston: 1,538
McAllen: 890
Seattle/Tacoma: 455
Philadelphia: -1,904
Austin: -2,180
Orlando: -6,833
Denver: -6,836
San Antonio: -6,931
Dallas/Fort Worth: -8,982
Washington DC: -11,836
San Jose: -20,583
Houston: -22,251
Atlanta: -28,952
New York: -29,252
San Francisco: -33,271
Chicago: -51,200
Los Angeles: -132,900

These numbers should, frankly, be quite shocking. The only metro areas that had substantial increases in foreign born Mexican population are in the Southwest with the only exception being Detroit. The Mexican giants (LA, Houston, Dallas, and Chicago) all had DECREASES in foreign born Mexican population. This says a couple of things to me:

1) Mexico is stabilizing and its economy has improved since the early 2010's. As such, fewer people are leaving.
2) Looking specifically and Houston and Dallas, they had MASSIVE increases in foreign born population despite DECREASES in foreign born Mexican populations. Their immigration patterns are changing dramatically. Houston especially had a massive increase of foreign born Hispanics, but it appears Central America and Northern South America are driving it.
3) All the metro areas above had positive increases of people with Mexican ancestry despite decreases of foreign born Mexicans.
4) Detroit's increase is a bit of anomaly. I theorize this is due to increased auto ties between Detroit and Mexico.

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Old 12-16-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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^ john chaney > bill cosby.
Cosby predated Chaney.

It was because of him that I knew about Temple at all when the school sent me recruiting materials in the mid-1970s, when I was in high school. I wasn't the only person who came away with the impression that Temple was an HBCU (it isn't) as a result.

And Temple used him as a marketing tool in the 1980s, not to mention his frequently mentioning the school on his hit NBC sitcom in that decade.
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Old 12-16-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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There has been a lot of talk about foreign born Mexican populations here. Below are the growth numbers between 2013-2018, however there is a LOT of decline:

Riverside: 20,344
Detroit: 13,414
Phoenix: 12,552
Las Vegas: 7,912
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,648
Boston: 1,538
McAllen: 890
Seattle/Tacoma: 455
Philadelphia: -1,904
Austin: -2,180
Orlando: -6,833
Denver: -6,836
San Antonio: -6,931
Dallas/Fort Worth: -8,982
Washington DC: -11,836
San Jose: -20,583
Houston: -22,251
Atlanta: -28,952
New York: -29,252
San Francisco: -33,271
Chicago: -51,200
Los Angeles: -132,900

These numbers should, frankly, be quite shocking. The only metro areas that had substantial increases in foreign born Mexican population are in the Southwest with the only exception being Detroit. The Mexican giants (LA, Houston, Dallas, and Chicago) all had DECREASES in foreign born Mexican population. This says a couple of things to me:

1) Mexico is stabilizing and its economy has improved since the early 2010's. As such, fewer people are leaving.
2) Looking specifically and Houston and Dallas, they had MASSIVE increases in foreign born population despite DECREASES in foreign born Mexican populations. Their immigration patterns are changing dramatically. Houston especially had a massive increase of foreign born Hispanics, but it appears Central America and Northern South America are driving it.
3) All the metro areas above had positive increases of people with Mexican ancestry despite decreases of foreign born Mexicans.
4) Detroit's increase is a bit of anomaly. I theorize this is due to increased auto ties between Detroit and Mexico.
Mexico has indeed stabilized its economy & fertility rates have dropped. I wonder as Mexico becomes more prosperous if a reverse migration may occur.
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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Mexico has indeed stabilized its economy & fertility rates have dropped. I wonder as Mexico becomes more prosperous if a reverse migration may occur.
Mexico has stagnant economy + increasing violent crime due to their new leadership

I wouldn't be surprised if migration to the US picks up again
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Old 12-16-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Mexico has stagnant economy + increasing violent crime due to their new leadership

I wouldn't be surprised if migration to the US picks up again
Not under Trump. That is not going to happen unless the Mexican economy really worsens and immigration more open to them.

Some is cost, moving to the suburbs if counts are by city-proper? Also gentrification. In Chicago as a example. Most gentrified areas became Latino first. Clearly it was a huge trend there and pushed out to even costlier or poorest areas did not help maintain its growth.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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Not under Trump. That is not going to happen unless the Mexican economy really worsens and immigration more open to them.

Some is cost, moving to the suburbs if counts are by city-proper? Also gentrification. In Chicago as a example. Most gentrified areas became Latino first. Clearly it was a huge trend there and pushed out to even costlier or poorest areas did not help maintain its growth.
True but if a more open borders kind of candidate gets elected, and Mexico keeps getting worse, I could see it happening.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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This is not going to turn into a political discussion. If you want to talk about Mexico’s president or trump, do it elsewhere.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Here are the numbers for foreign born growth from 2013-2018. Ive only done the ones with over 250k foreign born.
Since there has been some clamoring for city limits data, Ill do that shortly. Based on the data below, Florida and Texas are the biggest standouts, but Boston, Seattle, and the DC and SF CSAs are looking very strong too:

Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 280,250
Houston: 225,100
Dallas/Fort Worth: 225,009
Boston: 131,495
Seattle: 129,967
Orlando: 128,875
Washington DC: 117,693
New York: 112,142
Atlanta: 106,910
San Francisco: 102,845
Philadelphia: 91,594
Tampa: 90,086
Phoenix: 61,428
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 59,602
Las Vegas: 55,655
Riverside: 55,231
Sacramento: 50,795
San Jose: 49,340
Detroit: 45,579
Austin: 44,372
San Antonio: 39,507
Baltimore: 35,784
Charlotte: 35,054
Portland: 31,832
San Diego: 28,443
Denver: 25,728
Los Angeles: -6,982
Chicago: -14,630
Wow, Chicago is dead last? It won't be more than a couple of years before places like Dallas and Houston have a higher foreign-born population. I'm actually quite surprised by this.
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Old 12-17-2019, 06:36 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Wow, Chicago is dead last? It won't be more than a couple of years before places like Dallas and Houston have a higher foreign-born population. I'm actually quite surprised by this.
Along with DC and SF, by MSA. The other numbers I saw however showed Chicago with increasing Asian population and Hispanic, maybe this is increased by domestic migrants of those races?
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