Minneapolis vs Denver. Which is higher class in terms of education, healthcare, economy, and overall progressiveness. (Chicago, moving)
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We'll, WHAT is unique about Minne's so called 'culture'?
I'm trying to figure out what's unique about either city. I'll tell you one thing, plantings in Denver don't count for anything, because they may be more exotic. I have to admit, that post made me laugh.
We'll, WHAT is unique about Minne's so called 'culture'?
Bike culture. Scandinavian heritage. Somali heritage. The Minneapolis Sound and its musical legacy. Coffee shops. The Arts. Flour milling legacy. Unique and well-planned park system and waterways. The embrace of winter.
Actually, no one in the Twin Cities would care; most understand Denver for what it is - more secluded, slightly better weather, and way overrated.
Most on C-D maybe. I don't think Denver would be experiencing so much success in real life if most thought those things.
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Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical
Doesn't really matter what Colorado natives think. There are no Colorado natives. California natives already out number adult Natives in Nevada. The same will be true for Colorado by 2025. Denver, like Vegas and Portland is just poor man's California. They had very little identity until Californians started moving there.
Now Minneapolis, as I have seen with my own eye, is a nation in itself. There is no outside influence from SF, Chicago, etc. It's rise is organic and holistic. I mean Boulder is really 90% of Denver's cool vibe. Minneapolis stands on it's own. More urban, better looking people, and better culture.
Only draw back of the Twin cities is horrible long winters.
I mean, you can keep saying it but that doesn't make it the truth lol. The only thing CA gave CO is people who don't know how to drive in snow.
Wild West and Cowboys can be found from the Pacific Ocean to the great plains of Kansas.
Skiing came from Europa. And Snowboarding was invented in Michigan, with Jake Burton having the first bindings on a board at a Michigan Contest.
Again, much of Colorado's history is not unique and found in many other places. It wasn't until Californians started moving there, that people started seeing Denver as "cool" and "hip".
Now that Legal Pot has become ubiquitous for most of the country, Denver has lost much of it's "cool" factor.
I don't think anyone was claiming skiing and boarding were invented in CO, although we do have plenty of access for it. In fact, I thought boarding was invented in Vermont.
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Originally Posted by jennifat
Bike culture. Scandinavian heritage. Somali heritage. The Minneapolis Sound and its musical legacy. Coffee shops. The Arts. Flour milling legacy. Unique and well-planned park system and waterways. The embrace of winter.
Hmmm, according the wizard, most of what jennifat thinks is unique MN culture doesn't count because it actually originated somewhere else.
While there are many things in CO that originated in or also occurred in other places in the country, its centralized location and geography has led it to be a collecting place of quite a few different things that haven't or don't occur as collectively in many other places.
To think that the only thing that made CO cool was this century's in-migration of CA refugees and legal weed only demonstrates how uninformed that view on it actually is.
IMO, both are somewhat similar in some of their quality of life offerings, with a considerably different environment in which they are offered.
Bike culture. Scandinavian heritage. Somali heritage. The Minneapolis Sound and its musical legacy. Coffee shops. The Arts. Flour milling legacy. Unique and well-planned park system and waterways. The embrace of winter.
You need to look up the meaning of "unique". If Denver can't have "Wild West", "Cowboys", "Ski Bums" you can't have this stuff:
Scandinavian Heritage? How about Scandinavia itself? In the US Minnesota has the largest number of people with Scandinavian heritage, but not the highest percentage. That honor goes to North Dakota. California comes in second in raw numbers, because it has so many people there. Washington state has a big Scandinavian population, as does your neighbor Wisconsin that you all think you're so much better than. And how boring to have almost 1/3 the population of the same heritage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Americans
Somali Heritage? Again, you guys have the most, but there are several other cities with large Somali communities. "Somalis in the USA primarily live in 3 cities: 1) Minneapolis, MN; 2) Columbus, OH; and, 3) Seattle, WA (listed in order of population)." https://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/14983/US
I honestly don't know what the "Minneapolis Sound" is and I suppose one could say that's unique to Minneapolis. However, many cities have music "legacies". "Here is a list of the Top 9 Music Cities in the United States:
New Orleans, Louisiana.
Memphis, Tennessee.
Atlanta, Georgia.
Seattle, Washington.
Chicago, Illinois.
Nashville, Tennessee.
New York.
Austin, Texas.
Detroit, MI. https://www.aimm.edu/blog/the-best-m...-united-states
Now certainly that is just one rating, but Minneapolis is far from the only "music legacy" city in the US.
Coffee Shops! That is the funniest of all! Minneapolis is the only city in the US that has coffee shops? Gee, I remember coffee shops back in my hometown of Beaver Falls, PA in the 1950s! And in the late 60s, when I was in college, we used to hang out in this coffee house where students from Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, where Mr. Rogers went also hung out. Of course, Mr. Rogers is quite a bit older than me, so he was never there when I was. . . . OK, I've picked myself up off the floor where I was rolling and laughing.
"Here are the top 10 coffee cities in the U.S., according to WalletHub, and their corresponding scores (out of 100).
1. New York, New York: 66.92
2. Seattle, Washington: 65.71
3. San Francisco, California: 64.17
4. Portland, Oregon: 59.22
5. Los Angeles, California: 54.97
6. Washington, D.C.: 50.68
7. Chicago, Illinois: 59.03
8. Miami, Florida: 47.55
9. Boston, Massachusetts: 46.37
10. San Diego, California: 45.04" https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/25/wall...a-in-2018.html
The numbers are some sort of "coffee rating". Not even in the top 10!
The Arts-Minneapolis loses, yet again. https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...ities-for-art/
"The 12 Best Cities In The United States Of America To See Art"
San Francisco, CA
Washington DC
Santa Fe, NM
Chicago, IL
Marfa, TX (Not a typo)
Houston, TX
Los Angeles, CA
Seattle, WA
New Orleans, LA
Atlanta, GA
Asheville, NC
New York City, NY
Flour Milling Legacy-Not even that. "Kansas City, Dallas, Seattle and San Francisco developed as flour milling centers along with new grain markets. Buffalo, New York, on the Great Lakes took the lead in from Minneapolis as the largest flour milling center after 1920." Flour Milling in America, A General Overview.
Unique and well-planned park system and waterways- Every city's parks are "unique" in the true sense of the word. You might want to read this:
"For more than 100 years, Denver’s Mountain Parks have made the city's park system one of the most unique in the country, offering a place for people to play in the mountains. Extending across four counties outside of Denver city limits, 22 accessible parks and 24 conservation areas make up 14,000 acres of one of the most expansive park systems in the west." https://www.denvergov.org/content/de...ain-parks.html
I think Minneapolis is unique in parochialism. Too isolated to know that other cities have (gasp!) coffee shops, etc. I've heard stuff like this from other people as well.
Last edited by Katarina Witt; 12-05-2019 at 05:30 PM..
Both cities are fine, but neither would ever be my choice to live. Both, are, pretty-much, stand-alone cities. Certainly, there are others in the US, but once you leave these cities, you have to drive hours to reach another city of size. Certainly, though, that's not the end of the world.
I think of Denver as being slightly ahead on economics and progressiveness. It seems to be growing at an incredible rate, and is a little more progressive (weed legalization is still a ways off for Minnesota), even if Minneapolis is very liberal.
Education and healthcare probably go to Minneapolis. You have the flagship university right in Minneapolis, whereas Boulder is a suburb of Denver. The hospitals in Minneapolis/St Paul are strong, and you have the Mayo Clinic an hour away. Advantage Minneapolis.
I see the cities as very even overall and part of the same tier.
I agree with your reasons for Minneapolis concerning health care, especially the proximity to the Mayo Clinic. I can't think of anything in or near Denver that comes close to being in that same league.
The emphasis on marijuana legalization actually makes it harder for me to take Denver seriously, with some people acting like that's a "game changer. " Plus that reputation attracts a certain element and that doesn't just mean people who say there's some legitimate (key word) medical use in that. It's those who celebrate the pothead lifestyle who want to move there simply for that very reason. Not exactly "high class" to me.
Why not a third option for both are about the same? I find both are great cities.
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Plus that reputation attracts a certain element and that doesn't just mean people who say there's some legitimate (key word) medical use in that. It's those who celebrate the pothead lifestyle who want to move there simply for that very reason. Not exactly "high class" to me.