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Old 07-02-2020, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The most dangerous tracts in Boston, are in the city limits of Boston. Chelsea, Everett, Lynn add like maybe no more than 10 homicides this year. Lets throw in Brockton, 2 more murders. Lets say at most.. 15 murders for 300k people (Brockton 95k, Chelsea 45k, Everett 55k, Lynn 95k).

Yeah Boston is pricing out its populace, but its most dangerous tracts in the metro are in the city proper. Cut out Dorchester and add in like Cambridge or Somerville, and you easily have the safest city in the country. 700k (Without Dorchester) with 2-5 murders. Its still one of the safest metros, and the safest LARGE metro in the Northeast.

I have a lot of qualms on Boston, but I actually feel safer in Lynn, Chelsea, Revere and Eastie then I did when I lived in Orlando and NYC. I dont live in Massachusetts anymore (Very recently) so I have no real reason to boost it.. but to say adding in Lynn/Chelsea, etc will cause an increased murder rate is BS.

I suggest you revisit Lynn. Lynn is a great city, and no more a city of sin. Its a city with cool spots, an emerging art scene and a crazy diverse population. its changed drastically in the past 5 years. And so has Everett, now that it has the 20th most expensive building in the world... the town is (was prior to COVID i guess...) exploding with gentrification and revitalization.

Now you want to talk about some crappy towns.. I grew up 2 miles to Brockton.
Boston has more murders than the satellite cities but the satellite cities have higher overall and violent crime than Boston-often by a good margin.

Boston has a lot of homicides relative to them but it’s kind of cultural...

Sometimes Lynn Lowell Chelsea or brockton will log 10-14 homicides. I think Lynn has 14 last year or the year before. Depending on the year it’s more than a handful. And they deeply impact a specific demographics and generally contribute to property devaluation and stigma. They have pretty high crime rates when not looking at homicide.

It was only was 2013 when 8 of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the country were in Massachusetts. Source: Moderator cut: link removed, competitor site


They’re not hell or the wire by any stretch no ones say they are but they’re just fairly run down gritty low income towns with substantial lower middle class areas and some middle class areas but mostly lots of old housing, abandoned mills, subsidized housing, non profits, liquors stores, tenements, immigrants, delinquents, derelicts, townies, drugs, fights, robberies etc. it’s foundationally different than Baltimore.

Side note- in the last 23 hours 6 people have been shot in Boston- Most notably one to the face and one a teen shot in the chest-homicide unit was called for both of those shootings. Also a teenager was shot in the neck in Brockton this afternoon. And a body was found in a lake in Brockton in Wednesday.

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Old 07-02-2020, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Denver 39

Amazing, Denver's homicides are spreadout compared to most cities but none of the neighborhoods have large numbers of homicides.

East Colfax and Sun Valley have 3 homicides so far this year and a dozen or more others have one or two.

https://www.denvergov.org/content/de...crime-map.html

The police department reports 37 thru June 27th but there were two more the wednesday night and thursday night

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...d-neighborhood

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...t-29th-downing
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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“3 fatally shot in Boston in 24 hours”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/...ton-this-week/

1. 15 year old boy shot in the chest at 39 mount pleasant street 10 pm tonight.

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/gficp1BrXamFWEyR8

2. A man fatally shot at 42 Hosmer Street at 8:15 pm

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/wAKbByjD435dSWBu6

3. 45 year old man killed at 12:15 am Thursday

Per my sources these are the 25th 26th and 27th homicides in Boston. Boston Globe somehow has 21. I don’t know how-they’ve been behind all year. Denology even notes that. One of these homicides hasn’t been added to the list but there are very clearly more than 21 homicides. I’ve inquired with the Globe and am waiting for a response. https://www.universalhub.com/crime/murder/2020

4 people shot in Somerville MA an hour ago, one critical.

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Old 07-03-2020, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Man shot multiple times and killed in Worcester MA tonight.

https://twitter.com/stacos/status/12...383687681?s=21
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:20 AM
 
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Chicago up to 326 after 15 shootings and three deaths on Thursday.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:29 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I can't believe Camden, NJ is so low. 6 or 7? Wow. Compared to what it used to be. Holy ****.
They had disbanded the city's police department which was allegedly overly aggressive and potentially quite corrupt and then essentially replaced its role with the county police department which had the overarching idea that there needed to be an ideological change from "warrior" to "guardian" and directed new hires that they needed to do things like knock on the doors of every home in their beat and introduce themselves and reformed their use-of-force policy to make it much more an act of last resort. Police performance reviews also were decoupled from the number of tickets and arrests made, so making more arrests doesn't necessarily signify that a police officer is doing a better job.

There were a lot of people who thought the city was going to just descend into complete chaos, but both police complaints and violent crime both plunged dramatically in the years afterwards. It's a pretty interesting turn of events. Three other things to mention though. The police force in personnel size was larger the size of the previous one, though arguably not paid as well. Another is that the city demolition'd abandoned building if they were thought to be used as drug dens. Furthermore, there was a lot of state and philanthropic investment in that intervening time period into the city.
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Old 07-03-2020, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Tokyo, JAPAN
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6/29/2020 update

New York City 185
Los Angeles 141
Chicago 319
Philly 198
Houston 185
Dallas 96------same time last year 109
Baltimore 163
Detroit 126
Oakland, Cali 36---same time last year it was 42
Minneapolis 27
DC 83
Tulsa 36
Kansas City, MO 95
Saint Louis 102
Memphis 111
Cincinnati 49
Louisville, KY Metro 63
New Orleans 83
Columbus, Ohio 61
Nashville 65
Miami 23
Seattle 16
Orlando 27
Atlanta 49
Indianapolis 108
Oklahoma City 34
Albuquerque 30
Las Vegas Metro 38
Raleigh, NC 11----same time last year it was 15
Austin, TX 21

Jacksonville, Florida 70
Richmond, VA 34
Little Rock, Arkansas 32
Bakersfield, Cali 17
Kansas City, KS 21
Stockton, Cali 20
Montgomery, AL 28
Tucson, Arizona 17
Buffalo, New York 23
Syracuse, NY 14
Pueblo, CO 4
Des Moines, Iowa 14
Lowell, Mass 2
Springfield, Mass 10
Niagara Falls, New York 4
Springfield, Missouri 6
New Haven, CT 8
Danbury, CT 2
Albany, New York 8
Yonkers, New York 3
Long Beach, Cali 17
Spokane, WA 5
TUSCALOOSA, AL 6
West Memphis, Arkansas 2---same time last year it was 8, 2018 it was 14
York, PA 5

Toledo, Ohio 18
Charleston, SC 5
East Chicago, Indiana 3
Aurora, CO 8
Fayetteville, NC 9
Arlington, Texas 17
Santa Ana, Cali 3
Tallahassee, Florida 10
Fort Wayne, Indiana 14
Harvey, Louisiana 6
Warren, Ohio 3
Columbia, SC 12
Augusta, GA 10
Florence, AL 3
Springfield, IL 4
Grand Rapids, MI 10
Blytheville, Arkansas 6
TUSCALOOSA, AL 6
El Paso, Texas 7
North Las Vegas, NV 13
Arvada, CO 4
Lafayette, Louisiana 5
EVANSVILLE, Indiana 7
Vicksburg, Mississippi 5
West Palm Beach, FL 4
Independence, MO 4
Overland Park, KS 5
Providence, RI 3
Easton, PA 3
Camden, NJ 6 or 7
And where is Cleveland?
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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“3 fatally shot in Boston in 24 hours”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/...ton-this-week/

1. 15 year old boy shot in the chest at 39 mount pleasant street 10 pm tonight.

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/gficp1BrXamFWEyR8

2. A man fatally shot at 42 Hosmer Street at 8:15 pm

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/wAKbByjD435dSWBu6

3. 45 year old man killed at 12:15 am Thursday

Per my sources these are the 25th 26th and 27th homicides in Boston. Boston Globe somehow has 21. I don’t know how-they’ve been behind all year. Denology even notes that. One of these homicides hasn’t been added to the list but there are very clearly more than 21 homicides. I’ve inquired with the Globe and am waiting for a response. https://www.universalhub.com/crime/murder/2020

4 people shot in Somerville MA an hour ago, one critical.
I could be wrong but Wouldnt this be the 22, 23 and 24?
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Old 07-03-2020, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I could be wrong but Wouldnt this be the 22, 23 and 24?
Naw. Have a look for yourself. Count them up. https://www.universalhub.com/crime/murder/2020

Boston 26

11minutes ago, gunfire at South Shore Plaza: https://twitter.com/stacos/status/12...679690242?s=21
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Old 07-03-2020, 03:58 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont Triad
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Greensboro 3 this week... including a double murder this morning.
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