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Old 07-24-2020, 02:53 PM
 
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Another day, another 2 for Atlanta. It seems the majority of them are happening in the same areas, NW and SW Atlanta. As long as you avoid those areas you're safe for the most part. Granted, there are occasional ones in Buckhead, Midtown, Downtown, and more recently the Edgewood district.
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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7/24/2020 update

NYC 220
LA 163
Chicago 420-------same time numbers 2019 was 297, 18 was 317, 17 was 406, 16 was 388, 15 was 263
Houston 188
Dallas 122----same time last year 126
Detroit 155
Metro Nashville 53----same time in 2019 it was 37
Atlanta 74
Oklahoma City 45
Bmore 185
DC 106
Indianapolis 128
Kansas City, MO 108
Saint Louis 138
Pittsburgh 24
Phoenix 70
Minneapolis 37
Memphis 147
Milwaukee 96
Tulsa 40
Jacksonville, FL 107
Cincinnati 53
San Francisco 27
New Orleans 98
Denver 47
Columbus OH 72
Philly 233
Charlotte, NC 64
Albuquerque 44
Oakland, Cali 45
Boston 34


Fresno, Cali 15
Stockton, Cali 27
Birmingham, AL 56

Baton Rouge, Louisiana 53
Rochester, New York 21
Newark, NJ 20----same time in 2019 it was 28
Trenton, NJ 21
Niagara Falls, New York 6
Canton, Ohio 9
Bloomington, Indiana 4

Columbia, SC 14
Mckeesport, PA 6 near Pittsburgh
Irvington, NJ 5
Lincoln, Neb 7----2019 total was 11
Richmond, CA 4
Corpus Christi, TX 15
Wilmington, NC 7
Independence, MO 5
Spokane. WA 8
Tallahassee, FL 14
Mobile, AL 26
Greensboro, NC 30
Bakersfield, Cali 20
Virginia Beach, VA 11
Utica, NY 4
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:02 PM
 
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The YTD for Chicago is pretty confusing going by 2016 Vs 2017. Like if it was 406 same time in 2017, then theoretically this year could end with 2017s total or lower. You might say we'll this year's just getting worse and worse, but then why did Chicago have over 100 more murders in 2016 than 2017, but 2016s YTD was so much lower than 2017s?. This is why I'm still hopeful 2020 can end the year with under 700. Even if it's 699, I just think 700 is such a bad number for Chicago to reach. That's why 2016 seems such a disaster 5in my mind.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:44 PM
 
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The YTD for Chicago is pretty confusing going by 2016 Vs 2017. Like if it was 406 same time in 2017, then theoretically this year could end with 2017s total or lower. You might say we'll this year's just getting worse and worse, but then why did Chicago have over 100 more murders in 2016 than 2017, but 2016s YTD was so much lower than 2017s?. This is why I'm still hopeful 2020 can end the year with under 700. Even if it's 699, I just think 700 is such a bad number for Chicago to reach. That's why 2016 seems such a disaster 5in my mind.
Unfortunately with the current attack on and defunding of police depts, expect a lot of homicides in the usual suspect cities, adding NYC now as well.

The post Ferguson fallout cost a lot of black lives, estimated at 2,000. The current and quite dangerous movement to defund the police and the outright attacks on cops as they stand down, toss in low morale and we have the ingredients to make the post Ferguson numbers to look minuscule.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Soundview
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Unfortunately with the current attack on and defunding of police depts, expect a lot of homicides in the usual suspect cities, adding NYC now as well.

The post Ferguson fallout cost a lot of black lives, estimated at 2,000. The current and quite dangerous movement to defund the police and the outright attacks on cops as they stand down, toss in low morale and we have the ingredients to make the post Ferguson numbers to look minuscule.
Clearly, the police aren't stopping homicides.
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Old 07-25-2020, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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The YTD for Chicago is pretty confusing going by 2016 Vs 2017. Like if it was 406 same time in 2017, then theoretically this year could end with 2017s total or lower. You might say we'll this year's just getting worse and worse, but then why did Chicago have over 100 more murders in 2016 than 2017, but 2016s YTD was so much lower than 2017s?. This is why I'm still hopeful 2020 can end the year with under 700. Even if it's 699, I just think 700 is such a bad number for Chicago to reach. That's why 2016 seems such a disaster 5in my mind.
I believe murders were happening at a less frequency starting in the final quarter of 2017 for reasons I don't remember, and that's how 2017 ended with less than 2016.

I have hopes that 2020 will end with less than 2016 but no less than 650. We still have two whole warm weather months left, each maybe seeing 60-100 murders. July is going down as perhaps the most murderous month since the early 90s, and June was horrendous, too.


On second thought, 2020 could easily end with as many murders as 2016, if not more, going by my own projection, as that leaves October, November, and December. Those 3 months could see 100-150 murders all together. Either way, it is back to the drawing board after 3 years of a downward trend during 2017-2019. This should have been the year that the murders went down to the low 400s, if not 300s, judging by the previous years each had 90-100 less since 2016 high.

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Old 07-25-2020, 01:14 AM
 
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Clearly, the police aren't stopping homicides.
Those “violence interrupters” and other so-called community organizers etc paid by cities to allegedly stop violence need to step up along with the social workers etc that the Defund the Police and Marxist Lives Matter, oops, make that Black Lives Matter crowd have been harping about.

Those occasional Stop the Violence marches ain’t cuttin’ it

Lots of black lives will be lost because of Marxist Lives Matter...oh, and ANTIFA, can’t forget about that other patronizing collection of white misfits.
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Old 07-25-2020, 03:11 AM
 
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The YTD for Chicago is pretty confusing going by 2016 Vs 2017. Like if it was 406 same time in 2017, then theoretically this year could end with 2017s total or lower. You might say we'll this year's just getting worse and worse, but then why did Chicago have over 100 more murders in 2016 than 2017, but 2016s YTD was so much lower than 2017s?. This is why I'm still hopeful 2020 can end the year with under 700. Even if it's 699, I just think 700 is such a bad number for Chicago to reach. That's why 2016 seems such a disaster 5in my mind.
Chicago's total to date is quite a big higher than either 2016 and 2017. Just statistically Chicago would need to see a historic drop in murders over the next several months to finish under 700 for the year. So that would mean that one of the deadliest Jan. to Aug. periods would have to he followed by one of the least violent Aug. to Dec. periods. Does that even seem realistic?

Most likely Chicago will finish well above 800. Anything less than that would itself be as encouraging as encouraging can get in the middle of the public safety nightmare that Chicago is going through.
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Old 07-25-2020, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Chicago's total to date is quite a big higher than either 2016 and 2017. Just statistically Chicago would need to see a historic drop in murders over the next several months to finish under 700 for the year. So that would mean that one of the deadliest Jan. to Aug. periods would have to he followed by one of the least violent Aug. to Dec. periods. Does that even seem realistic?

Most likely Chicago will finish well above 800. Anything less than that would itself be as encouraging as encouraging can get in the middle of the public safety nightmare that Chicago is going through.
Yes if Chicago don’t turn around it will hit 800 by year end and I expect NYC hit 400-420 on par with 2012 but June was most violent month and July since 1999-2002.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Soundview
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Yes if Chicago don’t turn around it will hit 800 by year end and I expect NYC hit 400-420 on par with 2012 but June was most violent month and July since 1999-2002.
Most violent? No. Most shootings? Yeah. But even that is a stretch.
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