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Old 04-12-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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Cincinnati now at 19 after double homicide in the troubled Avondale neighborhood.

http://wlwt.com/article/2-dead-in-ov...105319?src=app
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Cincinnati at 23, police are asking for information on the two women found dead and they would not be doing that if it was something like a drug overdose.

https://www.fox19.com/2020/04/11/pol...ale-apartment/
Man charged in two double homicides.

http://wlwt.com/article/police-man-a...118131?src=app
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Old 04-12-2020, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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When NYC was super dangerous but had more culture


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgUsEVwXch0
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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I’ll look forward to your fair and balanced statistical breakdown of population losses and homicides and how they point to the “little hope” of Cleveland, Detroit, Saint Louis, New Orleans, Memphis, etc. since there’s no ulterior motive but just “data.”
Baltimore has higher homicide rates than all of them, and worse population loss. Please don't blame the messenger if the facts bother you so much.
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Old 04-12-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Baltimore has higher homicide rates than all of them, and worse population loss. Please don't blame the messenger if the facts bother you so much.
St. Louis, Cleveland, and Detroit have all declined over the years far worse than Baltimore, and St. Louis and Baltimore can go toe-to-toe with one another over homicide rates (last year alone St. Louis had a homicide rate 7/100K higher than Baltimore, and St. Louis was nearly 10/100K higher in 2018).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...1950/39557461/

(note that there's obviously a typo in the 2018 population of Detroit, but that city has lost nearly 1.2 million people since its peak in 1950, so obviously Baltimore doesn't have the worst population loss of that group of cities...not even close, and also not even the topic of the thread)

https://www.city-data.com/forum/city...l#post57000149

https://www.city-data.com/forum/city...018-a-129.html

I have no problem with facts, but the obvious bias is another thing.

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Old 04-12-2020, 03:06 PM
 
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When NYC was super dangerous but had more culture
The angry mob part reminds me of the Charles Bronson movies. Usually, encountering Charles Bronson did not end well ...

In this video from the late 70's Bronx you can even hear the gunfire ... It makes Detroit look like Main Street in Disney land.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4aX6ZE6Aj8
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Old 04-12-2020, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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When NYC was super dangerous but had more culture


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgUsEVwXch0
Back when NYC (The Bronx especially) had the grittiness, dog-eat-dog , dystopia conditions that led it to be the pioneer of the biggest music genre today; that is Hip Hop/Rap. Love it or Hate it, I doubt if it was like it is today back then it would've been capable of pulling it off.

On the flip side, no other city has pulled a 360 in transforming the city the way NYC had accomplish, though LA comes the closest. Today, I think even the Bronx (pop. 1.4 million) sees less than 100 homicides, or barely surpassing that mark.

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Old 04-12-2020, 04:53 PM
 
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Back when NYC (The Bronx especially) had the grittiness, dog-eat-dog , dystopia conditions that led it to be the pioneer of the biggest music genre today, that is Hip Hop. Love it or Hate it, I doubt if it was like it is today back then it would've been capable of pulling it off.

On the flip side, no other city has pulled a 360 in transforming the city the way NYC had accomplish, though LA comes the closest. Today, I think even the Bronx sees less than 100 homicides, or barely surpassing that mark.

Probably no coincidence that Bill Bratton went from NY to LA in 2016.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:07 PM
 
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Back when NYC (The Bronx especially) had the grittiness, dog-eat-dog , dystopia conditions that led it to be the pioneer of the biggest music genre today; that is Hip Hop/Rap. Love it or Hate it, I doubt if it was like it is today back then it would've been capable of pulling it off.

On the flip side, no other city has pulled a 360 in transforming the city the way NYC had accomplish, though LA comes the closest. Today, I think even the Bronx (pop. 1.4 million) sees less than 100 homicides, or barely surpassing that mark.
I do like the culture of NYC it seemed liked it was grimy but raw and real at the same time
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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I have no problem with facts
Some of your #'s are wrong.

Baltimore lost 1.5% of its population in the last year vs St. Louis which lost less than 1%. Detroit's '19 estimate isn't out yet, but last year it lost 0.2%.

Baltimore's homicide rate last year of 58/100k was well ahead of Detroit's 41/100k, and higher than St. Louis at 50/100k.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Baltimore 78
LA 64
DC 40
Oakland 14
SF 8
San Jose 8

Homicide numbers don't look so great, but LA robberies down 12% y/y, DC's down 7%.
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