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Old 01-04-2020, 12:18 AM
 
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LA is at one that I know of in 2020. A homeless person stabbed a guy to death in a restaurant downtown on New Year's Day after they got in an argument.

Despite being <1% of the population of LA, homeless people committed about 1/5 of the murders in LA in 2019. Most of those victims were other homeless people, who made up 17% of murder victims in the city.
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:13 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I'm just tired of Baltimore making it to the top of all the wrong lists.
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:35 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Austin had its first homicide yesterday despite all of the violence. The first three days of January saw two people shot, 3 stabbed, and one person bludgeoned in the head with a wooden board with nails sticking out of it.
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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I'm just tired of Baltimore making it to the top of all the wrong lists.
It's at 2 now
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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St. Louis at 8 now
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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St. Louis at 8 now
It's relevant of our conversation above to note that the #7 amd #8 happened outside of the gloomy hole of North St. Louis doom. They happened in Dutchtown (near trendy Tower Grove) and downtown. Yes, I know people are murdered in downtowns all over America. But St. Louis is just seeming downright scary these days.
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Default Spin off a neighborhood to lowe the murder rate

Why don't some of the high crime city spin-off 1 of the neighborhoods to lower the murder rate. chicago could unincorporate riverdale, washington heights and englewood?? that would cut the crime rate
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Why don't some of the high crime city spin-off 1 of the neighborhoods to lower the murder rate. chicago could unincorporate riverdale, washington heights and englewood?? that would cut the crime rate
Give away a part of the city because it's "high crime"? Part of the reason these areas have increased with rate is due to disinvestment and also some of the solidly middle class people moving out in the last decade. The new mayor hopefully will keep her word and invest in some of these areas that have been forgotten. Also, they'd be screwed on their own and nobody would even live there anymore if they were unincorporated. It would screw over so many people. It's a very, very bad idea.

Also, 2 of those 3 areas you mentioned for Chicago would have almost no impact on a rate for the entire city. Combined this year through 12/27, Washington Heights and Riverdale had a grand total of 8 homicides of 490 or 492 total. Those areas have a small population but nowhere even close to the worst areas of town as far as homicide rate goes. Even Englewood isn't the worst rate although it's basically #5. If you omitted Washington Heights and Riverdale from the calculation, the homicide rate of the city would go from 18.05 to 18.04. Almost no impact.

And if you must know, the top 10 community areas in Chicago (of 77 total) with the most homicides make up 53% of all of the city's homicides thru 12/27 (combined total of 420,000 people). If you omitted those from the calculation then the rate would go from 18.05 to 10.47. If you expanded that out to the next 5 areas, then the city's rate would go to 7.42 per 100K.

Anyway, not a good idea. It's a better idea to actually address an issue than to just turn a blind eye. While those areas have not been invested in, the new mayor and her staff seem a lot more interested in paying attention to some of these areas and trying to fix the long running issues that have led to violence issues.
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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Unincorporating neighborhoods because they're not behaving? I'm trying to imagine the mechanics of that! It's probably an impossibility in most if not all states...politically and logistically in addition to morally.

For starters, who'd take over governance, and where's the tax base to support them, especially given the huge expense of dealing with this sort of area?
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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It's at 2 now
Let's just hope that City Hall can swallow their pride and ask other cities how they did it, or ask the state for help. I won't hold my breath though
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