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Maybe I’m missing something, but both looked smaller than the Seaport on google images. Boston has East Cambridge (including Kendall), too.
Got any stats on how the 4 areas compare?
I know Navy Yards is 1.37 sq. km and is a hair smaller than East Cambridge (land area wise)... but is expected to have 12 to 15,000,000 square feet (1,400,000 m2) of office space, 9,000 residential units, 1,200 hotel rooms, 800,000 square feet (74,000 m2) of retail space, four public parks when its all set and done.
The city is literally in the middle of building a second downtown
The Seaport, Kendall Square, South End and Cambridge Crossing construction are all substantial/more substantial than Navy Yard in DC. Add in the 20+ high rises sprinkled in and all the infll, and I cant see why Boston hasnt beat out DC? I love DC but I really dont see the scale of dvlpmnt there like as boston has. Like I posted in the first comment above...
I get the Navy Yard is building a second downtown for DC but thats what the Seaport, Cambridge Xing,, South End and Causeway area/West End developments are doing.
One tower alone in Boston has 1 Million Square feet of Office Space and its neighboring tower has 400 units. Thats just one. The future and soon to start Suffolk Downs project on about 1sq kilometer will have atleast 10,000 residential units.
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The Seaport, Kendall Square, South End and Cambridge Crossing construction are all substantial/more substantial than Navy Yard in DC. Add in the 20+ high rises sprinkled in and all the infll, and I cant see why Boston hasnt beat out DC? I love DC but I really dont see the scale of dvlpmnt there like as boston has. Like I posted in the first comment above...
Hard no... Navy Yards by itself is going to have the same office/residential space as NYC's Hudson Yards.
These types of projects are multi-billion/decade mega developments, not just throwing up a few +500' tower here and there. The only things even remotely approach Navy Yards or Hudson Yards that are shovel in the ground are Schuylkill Yards in Philly, Port Covington in Baltimore, South Works/Lakeside Project in Chicago
The other developments your mention are more in scope with The Warf, Buzzard Point or NoMa developments which by themselves are also multi-million square foot developments. DC infills better than any city other thats not names NYC or San Fran because of it's height restrictions, and those 20+ high rises mean nothing when there apartment buildings in DC that hold the same amount of units as 6-700' skyscrapers.
If we are adding Cambridge to Bostons development than its only fair to add Crystal City, Silver Spring, Bethesda & Arlington to DC. All of which are substantially less height restrictive and are building just as fast if not faster then DC.
Boston is simply not out building greater DC when the former had 13% population increase the last decade vs. DC's 17% increase.
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One tower alone in Boston has 1 Million Square feet of Office Space and its neighboring tower has 400 units. Thats just one. The future and soon to start Suffolk Downs project on about 1sq kilometer will have atleast 10,000 residential units.
Ugh... what makes you think DC's developments are any smaller by square footage or unit count? DC currently has 10 apartments U/C with 400 to 700 units in them. 8 of which are located in either Navy Yards, NoMa or Buzzard point.
Boston is simply not not out building DC when The Districts population is growing 25% faster... especially when the latter has far more oppressive height laws.
Hard no... Naval Yards by itself is going to have the same office/residential space as NYC's Hudson Yards. I haven't event started with The Warf, Buzzard Point or NoMa developments which by themselves are also multi-million square foot developments. DC infills better than any city other thats not names NYC or San Fran because of it's height restrictions, and those 20+ high rises mean nothing when there apartment buildings in DC that hold the same amount of units as 6-700' skyscrapers.
If we are adding Cambridge to Bostons development than its only fair to add Crystal City, Silver Spring, Bethesda & Arlington. All of which are substantially less height restrictive and are building just as fast if not faster then DC. can add Cambridge development.
Boston is not out building greater DC when the former had 13% population increase the last decade vs. DC's 17% increase.
Ugh... what makes you think DC's developments are any smaller by square footage or unit count?
Let me put it this way.. Boston 691' Millennium tower "only" has 442 units. DC currently has 10 apartments U/C with 400 to 700 units in them. 8 of which are located in either Navy Yards, NoMa or Buzzard point.
Im not saying just because Boston builds higher that its more supreme ... In any way. I just find it crazy that 76 buildings between 200 and 399ft were/are under construction in Boston-Cambridge-Somerville, and about 15 more over 400ft, and its lagging behind DC. I just think the Seaport alone going from parking lots to what it is today is remarkable enough.
Im not saying just because Boston builds higher that its more supreme ... In any way. I just find it crazy that 76 buildings between 200 and 399ft were/are under construction in Boston-Cambridge-Somerville, and about 15 more over 400ft, and its lagging behind DC. I just think the Seaport alone going from parking lots to what it is today is remarkable enough.
Again the buildings hold the same space, but unlike Boston... DC waste zero space.
There going to be built to the maximum allowed height and then try and cram as much people in as possible and because DC is growing 25% faster than Boston, it's understandably.
If we include Crystal City, Arlington, Silver Spring & Bethesda it's a brutal landslide in the Districts favor.
Because despite the height disparity, DC's buildings hold just as much if not more people... and because it's population is growing faster it builds more.
Yeah I just took a look at the developments. Rather bland in DC. Its a lot yes, and the DC Metro is outpacing greater Boston at a ratio of 23:17 in recent development but the gap is closing .. however, I dont find it all that attractive. 250 foot glass boxes. Meh
Yeah I just took a look at the developments. Rather bland in DC. Its a lot yes, and the DC Metro is outpacing greater Boston at a ratio of 23:17 in recent development but the gap is closing .. however, I dont find it all that attractive. 250 foot glass boxes. Meh
Baring the Monuments, Museums & old row-homes/brownstones DC by large (or its metro) has never been the most architecturally pleasing city imho. Boston & Montreal would hands down win in that department.
https://estatedc.com/
(can't find a good pic so using the developers page, it's built and opening in the next ~month)
And for those that are skeptical about how much this one neighborhood is changing, check out these before/after sliders at our neighborhood blog: https://www.jdland.com/dc/slidepics.cfm?old=y
https://estatedc.com/
(can't find a good pic so using the developers page, it's built and opening in the next ~month)
And for those that are skeptical about how much this one neighborhood is changing, check out these before/after sliders at our neighborhood blog: https://www.jdland.com/dc/slidepics.cfm?old=y
There are definitely nice ones, but it's harder to different your modern building, from the next one when everything is the same height, width, etc..
This is coming from a person who grew outside the district until '16
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