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View Poll Results: Faster paced metro area?
San Fran/Silicon Valley 26 35.14%
D.C./NOVA/Maryland suburbs 48 64.86%
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Working hours and status-obsession doesn't equal "fast paced" in my opinion. Generally when I think of fast-paced I think of literally the pace people are moving from point A to B, how they approach restaurants/dining (sit/linger, or grab and go), and how they handle leisure time, etc. I can see working hours influencing pace (i.e. less time to do things outside of work hours, so people are rushing), but I really don't think status obsession has anything to do with a city's pace. And while I see what you're saying about tech being rapidly evolving, don't underestimate how frenetic finance, sales, media, and any other major corporate sector can be. I think the working hours in either place have a negligible impact on the "pace" of either place, regardless.
I think that can be part of it. Think Anne Hathaway's character in the The Devil Wears Prada. If you have a lot of industries with a "Go, Go, Go, Now, Now, Now" mentality (and corresponding above average cocaine use), then I could see how that might contribute to a perception that one city might be "faster-paced" than another without those industries.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I wish we could see a breakdown by educational attainment.

Mean Usual Hours Worked

Scarsdale - 42.7
Manhattan - 42.4
Arlington (VA) - 42.1
Palo Alto - 41.4
Bethesda - 41.3
Menlo Park - 41.3
Alexandria (VA) - 41.0
Sausalito - 40.8
Dallas - 40.2
San Carlos - 40.0
San Francisco - 40.1
Washington - 40.1
Charlotte - 39.8
Atlanta - 39.5
Seattle - 38.9
Miami - 38.8
Brooklyn - 38.7
Chicago - 38.7
Philadelphia - 38.2
Boston - 38.1
Oakland - 37.9
Los Angeles - 37.8
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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I wish we could see a breakdown by educational attainment.

Mean Usual Hours Worked

Scarsdale - 42.7
Manhattan - 42.4
Arlington (VA) - 42.1
Palo Alto - 41.4
Bethesda - 41.3
Menlo Park - 41.3
Alexandria (VA) - 41.0
Sausalito - 40.8
Dallas - 40.2
San Carlos - 40.0
San Francisco - 40.1
Washington - 40.1
Charlotte - 39.8
Atlanta - 39.5
Seattle - 38.9
Miami - 38.8
Brooklyn - 38.7
Chicago - 38.7
Philadelphia - 38.2
Boston - 38.1
Oakland - 37.9
Los Angeles - 37.8
I had to look Scarsdale up....what's going on there? Looks like it's just a wealthy suburban hamlet in NY.

But otherwise it's interesting that SF and DC are identical and the DC 'burbs and SV towns are right there together as well in terms of mean hours worked.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I think that can be part of it. Think Anne Hathaway's character in the The Devil Wears Prada. If you have a lot of industries with a "Go, Go, Go, Now, Now, Now" mentality (and corresponding above average cocaine use), then I could see how that might contribute to a perception that one city might be "faster-paced" than another without those industries.
I agree with you. My point was just that I don't think Bay Area workers work all that much more or have any more of a "go, go, go!" approach than DC workers in spite of some differences in the economic sectors. So the working hours in either metro area have a negligible impact on the difference in "pace" between the two cities.
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Here are a few more.

Financial District (NY) - 47.4
Hoboken (NJ) - 43.8
Darien (CT) - 42.4
Greenwich (CT) - 41.7
West Hollywood (CA) - 41.7
Short Hills (NJ) - 41.5
Bethesda (MD) - 41.3
Beverly Hills (CA) - 41.3
McLean (VA) - 40.9
Brookline (MA) - 40.6
Dunwoody (GA) - 40.6
Potomac (MD) - 40.6
Chevy Chase (MD) - 40.4
Atherton (CA) 39.2
Piedmont (CA) - 39.1
Chestnut Hill (PA) - 38.5
San Mateo (CA) - 38.8
Cambridge (MA) - 38.5
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Old 03-05-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I had to look Scarsdale up....what's going on there? Looks like it's just a wealthy suburban hamlet in NY.
Money never sleeps.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:01 AM
 
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Money never sleeps.
But the folks in the suburbs who make a lot of it are known to sleep while their money makes more money for them.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Narrowing the focus quite a bit.

Financial District (NYC) - 47.4
Midtown NYC (10016) - 47.3
Financial District (Boston) - 46.7
Midtown NYC (10017) - 46.7
Battery Park (10280) - 46.6
Rittenhouse Sq. (19103) - 45.1
Logan Circle DC (20005) - 45.0
Midtown NYC (10019) - 45.0
Downtown SF (94111) - 44.4
The Loop/DT Chicago (60606) - 44.4
Dupont Circle DC (20036) - 44.2
Society Hill (19106) - 43.5
Uptown Charlotte (28202) - 42.7
Midtown Atlanta (30308) - 42.3
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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But the folks in the suburbs who make a lot of it are known to sleep while their money makes more money for them.
Yeah, a lot of people I know, including myself hopefully (in 10-15 years) are developing a ton of passive income through dividend stock, side businesses, royalties, etc. This whole current wage system with automation coming is going to force a ton of people how they re-see assets.

Or there'll be a violent revolution. Who knows.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I agree with you. My point was just that I don't think Bay Area workers work all that much more or have any more of a "go, go, go!" approach than DC workers in spite of some differences in the economic sectors. So the working hours in either metro area have a negligible impact on the difference in "pace" between the two cities.
Agreed.

I find it interesting that the data somewhat correlates with common perception of these cities. By peak hours worked, NYC is by far #1 followed by Boston, Philly and DC. San Francisco is slightly below and Chicago is slightly below SF.

Not that this necessarily translates into "pace." But it does kinda bolster the notion of a "Type A" East Coast mentality.
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