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Old 04-29-2020, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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I would imagine every major metro will be in the red for April though, even if its only temporary.
My thoughts exactly. As bad as these numbers are, April is unfortunately going to be atrocious, and every metro area will certainly be "in the red."

There will be something of a rebound likely in June or July, but it's looking less and less likely that we'll get back to February 2020 employment levels later this year, especially with a likely "second wave" of the virus in the fall.

This is a very unique economic situation that's going to take a LOT of thought, collaboration, and effort from a LOT different experts to truly get back to normal. Many people seem to still unfortunately be in denial about how things will be different for the foreseeable future.
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I thought that Dallas was leading the country in job growth? What happened? Why would Dallas lose so many more jobs than any other metro area? Maybe its from the airport or something.
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by ABQalex View Post
Expanding the list to include all metro areas with more than 100,000 jobs:

+5,600 Atlanta
+3,800 Louisville
+3,000 Myrtle Beach, SC
+2,200 Pittsburgh
+2,100 Dayton, OH
+1,800 Columbia, SC
+1,800 Davenport (Quad Cities IA-IL)
+1,800 Fort Walton Beach-Destin, FL
+1,500 Augusta, GA
+1,400 Virginia Beach-Norfolk
+1,300 Chattanooga
+1,300 Scranton, PA
+1,200 Pensacola, FL
+1,200 Trenton, NJ
+1,100 Ann Arbor, MI
+1,000 Eugene, OR
+1,000 York, PA
+900 Colorado Springs
+900 Spartanburg, SC
+900 Springfield, MO
+800 Buffalo
+800 Greenville, SC
+800 Harrisburg, PA
+800 Springfield, IL
+700 Cedar Rapids, IA
+700 Denver
+700 Greeley, CO
+700 Indianapolis
+700 Memphis
+700 Mobile
+700 Sioux Falls, SD
+600 Boise
+600 Charleston, WV
+600 Elkhart, IN
+600 Lincoln, NE
+600 Lynchburg, VA
+600 Naples, FL
+600 Port St. Lucie, FL
+500 Appleton, WI
+500 Boulder, CO
+400 Birmingham
+400 Brownsville, TX
+400 Huntington, WV
+400 Kennewick, WA
+400 Macon, GA
+400 St. Cloud, MN
+300 Columbia, MO
+300 Evansville, IN
+300 Killeen, TX
+300 Savannah, GA
+300 Worcester, MA
+200 Allentown-Bethlehem, PA
+200 Lakeland, FL
+200 Lexington, KY
+200 South Bend, IN
+100 Albuquerque
+100 Atlantic City, NJ
+100 Baton Rouge
+100 Canton, OH
+100 Charlottesville, VA
+100 Corpus Christi, TX
+100 Fayetteville, NC
+100 Lafayette, LA
+100 Madison, WI
+100 Montgomery, AL
+100 Omaha
+100 Portland, OR
+100 Santa Cruz, CA
+100 Stockton, CA
+100 Topeka, KS
+100 Utica, NY
+100 Vallejo, CA
--------gain--------
= Amarillo, TX
= Fort Collins, CO
= Gulfport-Biloxi, MS
= Nashville
= Ocala, FL
= Olympia, WA
= San Luis Obispo, CA
= Visalia-Porterville, CA
--------loss--------
-100 Binghamton, NY
-100 Bristol, TN
-100 Fargo, ND
-100 Ft. Wayne, IN
-100 Lafayette-West Lafayette, IN
-100 Lancaster, PA
-100 Modesto, CA
-100 Northwest Arkansas
-100 Provo, UT
-100 Salem, OR
-200 Erie, PA
-200 Gainesville, FL
-200 Greensboro, NC
-200 Hickory, NC
-200 Knoxville
-200 Laredo, TX
-200 Ogden, UT
-200 Oxnard, CA
-200 Roanoke, VA
-200 Tulsa
-200 Tuscaloosa, AL
-200 Wichita
-300 College Station, TX
-300 Grand Rapids
-300 Lake Charles, LA
-300 Raleigh
-300 Spokane, WA
-300 Tallahassee
-400 Fresno
-400 Lubbock, TX
-400 Midland, TX
-400 Rochester, MN
-400 Shreveport
-400 Tyler, TX
-500 Columbus, GA
-500 Fort Smith, AR
-500 Norwich, CT
-500 Peoria, IL
-500 Reno
-500 Rochester, NY
-500 Salisbury, DE
-500 Waco, TX
-500 Winston-Salem, NC
-600 Des Moines
-600 Duluth, MN
-600 Hagerstown, MD
-600 Huntsville, AL
-600 Kalamazoo, MI
-600 Little Rock
-600 Rockford, IL
-600 Santa Maria-Santa Barbara, CA
-600 Santa Rosa, CA
-600 Wilmington, NC
-700 Albany
-700 Anchorage
-700 Flint, MI
-700 Reading, PA
-700 Syracuse
-800 Bakersfield
-800 Burlington, VT
-800 Durham, NC
-800 El Paso
-800 Salt Lake City
-800 Youngstown, OH
-1,000 Champaign-Urbana, IL
-1,000 Fort Meyers, FL
-1,000 Green Bay, WI
-1,000 Lansing-East Lansing, MI
-1,000 Portland, ME
-1,200 Bridgeport, CT
-1,200 Daytona Beach, FL
-1,200 Honolulu
-1,200 McAllen, TX
-1,200 Sarasota, FL
-1,300 Beaumont, TX
-1,300 Salinas, CA
-1,300 Springfield, MA
-1,400 Akron
-1,500 Manchester, NH
-1,500 Melbourne, FL
-1,600 Hartford
-1,600 Jackson, MS
-1,600 Toledo, OH
-1,700 Charleston, SC
-1,800 Asheville, NC
-1,800 Tucson
-2,100 Charlotte
-2,300 St. Louis
-2,400 Oklahoma City
-2,800 Columbus, OH
-3,100 Las Vegas
-3,200 Kansas City
-3,400 New Haven, CT
-3,500 Orlando
-3,500 Sacramento
-3,600 Cincinnati
-3,600 Cleveland
-3,900 Milwaukee
-3,900 Philadelphia
-4,000 Baltimore
-4,000 Seattle
-4,300 New Orleans
-5,100 Richmond
-5,100 Tampa
-5,300 Providence
-5,500 Jacksonville
-5,500 Riverside
-6,500 Phoenix
-6,800 San Antonio
-6,900 Austin
-6,900 San Jose
-7,000 Washington
-7,100 Miami
-8,200 Houston
-8,500 Detroit
-9,100 Boston
-10,100 San Diego
-12,100 Minneapolis-St. Paul
-14,700 San Francisco
-17,700 Chicago
-25,700 New York
-28,800 Dallas-Fort Worth
-48,400 Los Angeles
+1 right on. Thanks for putting in the work.
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ABQalex View Post
Expanding the list to include all metro areas with more than 100,000 jobs:

+5,600 Atlanta
+3,800 Louisville
+3,000 Myrtle Beach, SC
+2,200 Pittsburgh
+2,100 Dayton, OH
+1,800 Columbia, SC
+1,800 Davenport (Quad Cities IA-IL)
+1,800 Fort Walton Beach-Destin, FL
+1,500 Augusta, GA
+1,400 Virginia Beach-Norfolk
+1,300 Chattanooga
+1,300 Scranton, PA
+1,200 Pensacola, FL
+1,200 Trenton, NJ
+1,100 Ann Arbor, MI
+1,000 Eugene, OR
+1,000 York, PA
+900 Colorado Springs
+900 Spartanburg, SC
+900 Springfield, MO
+800 Buffalo
+800 Greenville, SC
+800 Harrisburg, PA
+800 Springfield, IL
+700 Cedar Rapids, IA
+700 Denver
+700 Greeley, CO
+700 Indianapolis
+700 Memphis
+700 Mobile
+700 Sioux Falls, SD
+600 Boise
+600 Charleston, WV
+600 Elkhart, IN
+600 Lincoln, NE
+600 Lynchburg, VA
+600 Naples, FL
+600 Port St. Lucie, FL
+500 Appleton, WI
+500 Boulder, CO
+400 Birmingham
+400 Brownsville, TX
+400 Huntington, WV
+400 Kennewick, WA
+400 Macon, GA
+400 St. Cloud, MN
+300 Columbia, MO
+300 Evansville, IN
+300 Killeen, TX
+300 Savannah, GA
+300 Worcester, MA
+200 Allentown-Bethlehem, PA
+200 Lakeland, FL
+200 Lexington, KY
+200 South Bend, IN
+100 Albuquerque
+100 Atlantic City, NJ
+100 Baton Rouge
+100 Canton, OH
+100 Charlottesville, VA
+100 Corpus Christi, TX
+100 Fayetteville, NC
+100 Lafayette, LA
+100 Madison, WI
+100 Montgomery, AL
+100 Omaha
+100 Portland, OR
+100 Santa Cruz, CA
+100 Stockton, CA
+100 Topeka, KS
+100 Utica, NY
+100 Vallejo, CA
--------gain--------
= Amarillo, TX
= Fort Collins, CO
= Gulfport-Biloxi, MS
= Nashville
= Ocala, FL
= Olympia, WA
= San Luis Obispo, CA
= Visalia-Porterville, CA
--------loss--------
-100 Binghamton, NY
-100 Bristol, TN
-100 Fargo, ND
-100 Ft. Wayne, IN
-100 Lafayette-West Lafayette, IN
-100 Lancaster, PA
-100 Modesto, CA
-100 Northwest Arkansas
-100 Provo, UT
-100 Salem, OR
-200 Erie, PA
-200 Gainesville, FL
-200 Greensboro, NC
-200 Hickory, NC
-200 Knoxville
-200 Laredo, TX
-200 Ogden, UT
-200 Oxnard, CA
-200 Roanoke, VA
-200 Tulsa
-200 Tuscaloosa, AL
-200 Wichita
-300 College Station, TX
-300 Grand Rapids
-300 Lake Charles, LA
-300 Raleigh
-300 Spokane, WA
-300 Tallahassee
-400 Fresno
-400 Lubbock, TX
-400 Midland, TX
-400 Rochester, MN
-400 Shreveport
-400 Tyler, TX
-500 Columbus, GA
-500 Fort Smith, AR
-500 Norwich, CT
-500 Peoria, IL
-500 Reno
-500 Rochester, NY
-500 Salisbury, DE
-500 Waco, TX
-500 Winston-Salem, NC
-600 Des Moines
-600 Duluth, MN
-600 Hagerstown, MD
-600 Huntsville, AL
-600 Kalamazoo, MI
-600 Little Rock
-600 Rockford, IL
-600 Santa Maria-Santa Barbara, CA
-600 Santa Rosa, CA
-600 Wilmington, NC
-700 Albany
-700 Anchorage
-700 Flint, MI
-700 Reading, PA
-700 Syracuse
-800 Bakersfield
-800 Burlington, VT
-800 Durham, NC
-800 El Paso
-800 Salt Lake City
-800 Youngstown, OH
-1,000 Champaign-Urbana, IL
-1,000 Fort Meyers, FL
-1,000 Green Bay, WI
-1,000 Lansing-East Lansing, MI
-1,000 Portland, ME
-1,200 Bridgeport, CT
-1,200 Daytona Beach, FL
-1,200 Honolulu
-1,200 McAllen, TX
-1,200 Sarasota, FL
-1,300 Beaumont, TX
-1,300 Salinas, CA
-1,300 Springfield, MA
-1,400 Akron
-1,500 Manchester, NH
-1,500 Melbourne, FL
-1,600 Hartford
-1,600 Jackson, MS
-1,600 Toledo, OH
-1,700 Charleston, SC
-1,800 Asheville, NC
-1,800 Tucson
-2,100 Charlotte
-2,300 St. Louis
-2,400 Oklahoma City
-2,800 Columbus, OH
-3,100 Las Vegas
-3,200 Kansas City
-3,400 New Haven, CT
-3,500 Orlando
-3,500 Sacramento
-3,600 Cincinnati
-3,600 Cleveland
-3,900 Milwaukee
-3,900 Philadelphia
-4,000 Baltimore
-4,000 Seattle
-4,300 New Orleans
-5,100 Richmond
-5,100 Tampa
-5,300 Providence
-5,500 Jacksonville
-5,500 Riverside
-6,500 Phoenix
-6,800 San Antonio
-6,900 Austin
-6,900 San Jose
-7,000 Washington
-7,100 Miami
-8,200 Houston
-8,500 Detroit
-9,100 Boston
-10,100 San Diego
-12,100 Minneapolis-St. Paul
-14,700 San Francisco
-17,700 Chicago
-25,700 New York
-28,800 Dallas-Fort Worth
-48,400 Los Angeles
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I want to see March going into April and April going into May. I think what helped Atlanta so much is Kemp refusing to shut down until April for better or for worse. I'm also trying to figure out how Delta alone laid off over 10,000 employees yet the metro still showed a large gain.



Its messy in all industries including tech but I believe the ones who have felt it the strongest are hospitality, restaurants, bars, ect and I believe they make up a vast portion of the job losses as well. Also Austin and DFW shut down about a month before Atlanta did and Georgia technically only spent about 10 days with a mandatory stay at home order.

You gotta pick your poison, they may have the least job loss but they also have a very high case count for a state its size.
These job numbers are from February through March. Most of these metros were not closed. TX also had cities with positive growth during the period. Now, the numbers for April will be ugly for every metro.
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Old 04-30-2020, 01:36 PM
 
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You omitted Birmingham +400. From 544,300 to 544,700.


And it's probably not a good idea to look at job numbers for March, April, and even May. Unless you are just a complete masochist.


Looking at New York's awful numbers, I bet there are a lot of people there who are mad at AOC for working so hard to turn away the new Amazon headquarters.
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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This is probably a better analysis than raw numbers.



https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-a...ntent=87237540
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:35 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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This absolutely gut wrenching to see for all the cities out there.

The numbers for April are going to be absolutely brutal, Atlanta included since Georgia was one of the last States to issue stay at home orders.
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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Looking at New York's awful numbers, I bet there are a lot of people there who are mad at AOC for working so hard to turn away the new Amazon headquarters.
Amazon is still expanding in NYC anyway. Technically it's not HQ2, but seeing as though Amazon knew where it wanted to go all along, I'm pretty sure they'll be ramping up employment over the years to a number close to that 25K figure--and without enormous tax breaks.

Even if NYC had officially gotten HQ2, it wouldn't have helped these numbers since it would still be in the early phases of hiring as it is in NoVA.
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