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Old 05-20-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Ugh. please don’t compare Bsoton to Arlington ever again. Barf.
I meant in the sense of living in a place that's lacking Black people.

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But to be fair with OPs budget they’d most likely be in the hood which would ultimately be fine it’s not 1995 DC. Maybe they snag an income restricted unit near Howard if they’re lucky
Or a basement apartment.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:52 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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It seems like agreeing on one definition of what urban should be and making four lists should get the OP's options laid out. Take the definition of urban and apply it to various DC and Atlanta area neighborhoods and generate two lists, one for each city, of the urban neighborhoods. Then make another two lists, one for each city, of neighborhoods that have 30% or more AA population as stipulated by the OP. Take the two lists for each city and find the overlap. Then you have two lists that meet the criteria and the limiting it down to specific neighborhoods should make the comparison easier.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I meant in the sense of living in a place that's lacking Black people.



Or a basement apartment.
You’re not far off. But even that’s not a the best comparison. Arlington is Cambridge. Demographically and culturally nearly identical. Cambridge being more expensive, hip, and walkable with a more ‘urban’ black populace (Arlington only recently became urban/urbane) and more tight knit black community (Central Square, Portside and the Coast). It wasn’t long ago Cambridge public schools were nearly 40% black (2007ish) No Roxburys (which could be considered a thriving black community) in Arlington.


And yea basement apartment Is also real...
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It seems like agreeing on one definition of what urban should be and making four lists should get the OP's options laid out. Take the definition of urban and apply it to various DC and Atlanta area neighborhoods and generate two lists, one for each city, of the urban neighborhoods. Then make another two lists, one for each city, of neighborhoods that have 30% or more AA population as stipulated by the OP. Take the two lists for each city and find the overlap. Then you have two lists that meet the criteria and the limiting it down to specific neighborhoods should make the comparison easier.
This is City-Data. You know better. Trump will refer to Obama as the Greatest President of All Time before 3 or more posters will ever agree "on one definition of what urban should be."
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I meant in the sense of living in a place that's lacking Black people.



Or a basement apartment.
Unfortunately, I strongly double anyone can find a basement apartment anywhere in the urban core for $1400 these days. Even basement apartments are fetching around $1700+.
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Old 05-20-2020, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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If the OP listens to some of these posters, he'll end up in Ballston 2.0 (might as well be Boston) or in the hood. It sounds like he's not looking to live in either.

As I said from the beginning, the OP's best bet is the area adjacent to Howard University. The data shows this as well as common observation. While it's not a supremely strong concentration of Black professionals, it is a stronger concentration than what exists in urban Atlanta.
I don't know of any urban predominately black neighborhoods that aren't the hood in America. Anacostia, Bedstuy, Harlem, West End, etc. etc. They are all the hood. Howard was the hood till about 5-years ago and some people still call it the hood. There is going to be crime and homeless people and everything else that comes with the hood. It is what it is if you choose to live in an urban black neighborhood. The only black neighborhoods that aren't hood are neighborhoods with no retail it seems.

I think that's something black people that desire to live around other black people accept as a necessary evil. It stems from what happened to our people during Slavery, Jim Crow, Civil Rights, Red Lining, Korean War Drug Addicted Soldiers, Vietnam War Drug Addicted Soldiers, and the Crack Epidemic. We are just building out of that sequence now.
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:03 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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This is City-Data. You know better. Trump will refer to Obama as the Greatest President of All Time before 3 or more posters will ever agree "on one definition of what urban should be."
Meh, let's just say walkscore of 80 or higher. There are issues with walkscore, but it seems like anything 80 or higher is almost certainly at least somewhat urban and almost nowhere that's significantly walkable would score lower. Just urban enough, is all.
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:10 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I don't know of any urban predominately black neighborhoods that aren't the hood in America. Anacostia, Bedstuy, Harlem, West End, etc. etc. They are all the hood. Howard was the hood till about 5-years ago and some people still call it the hood. There is going to be crime and homeless people and everything else that comes with the hood. It is what it is if you choose to live in an urban black neighborhood. The only black neighborhoods that aren't hood are neighborhoods with no retail it seems.

I think that's something black people that desire to live around other black people accept as a necessary evil. It stems from what happened to our people during Slavery, Jim Crow, Civil Rights, Red Lining, Korean War Drug Addicted Soldiers, Vietnam War Drug Addicted Soldiers, and the Crack Epidemic. We are just building out of that sequence now.
Southeast Queens isn definitely not the most urban part of NYC, but it is majority AA for the most part, pretty urban by US standards, parts of it are middle class to upper middle class with fairly good crime rates and there are retail strips.
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Meh, let's just say walkscore of 80 or higher. There are issues with walkscore, but it seems like anything 80 or higher is almost certainly at least somewhat urban and almost nowhere that's significantly walkable would score lower. Just urban enough, is all.
Georgetown DC Walkscore 79
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Old 05-20-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Oh damn, maybe we lower it to 75? Walkscore defines 70 to 89 as Very Walkable, but I feel like I've seen neighborhoods that were in the 70 range that weren't all that walkable though I don't recall specific ones.
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