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Old 05-22-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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Correct, I'm more so making a distinction between actual urban development streets like H Street in DC compared to places I have shown in Ward 7 and Ward 8 or Old Fourth Ward etc. with just a cluster of mixed use buildings surrounded by low density residential detached single family homes.
Well outside of mutifamily developments, all of the housing in Atlanta is going to be SFR detached. The real point of distinction is going to be new mixed-use development along a main commercial corridor vs the same type of development located within the commercial heart of a residential neighborhood, with that commercial heart being somewhat internal to the neighborhood. Because DC is a planned city with an extensive grid system, very few of the local commercial districts within residential neighborhoods are completely internal to the neighborhood as several tend to be in Atlanta with the curving roads following the natural lay of the land. Although both Inman Park and Mount Pleasant in DC are both streetcar suburbs, one could much more easily stumble on Mount Pleasant's local commercial corridor (Mount Pleasant St) seeing as though it simply branches diagonally off 16 St, a main throughfare within the city. If you wind up in the middle of Inman Park though, it's either because that's your actual destination or you're truly lost LOL.
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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I haven't, could you please post what is being built there or what already has been built there?
This article highlights it. I may make a video or post my own photos of the infill.
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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I’m comparing the price points for the new Ward 7 and Ward 8 apartments being built to similar looking neighborhoods in Atlanta like Old Fourth Ward etc. Like Old Fourth Ward, Ward 7 and Ward 8 DC will be built around town center style development surrounded by neighborhoods with lower density.

There is nothing in Atlanta comparable to the urban core of DC. I wouldn’t make a comparison of the two areas because that part of DC is so much more urban than Atlanta. This thread has mainly been about finding places that have a large professional black population and finding places that are urban enough for the OP. If the OP wants an urban environment he can’t find anywhere in Atlanta, then he should move into the urban core of DC if he can afford it. If the neighborhood can be more like what urban neighborhoods look like in Atlanta, then Ward 7 and Ward 8 are options.
Absolutely agree with this.
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Old 05-22-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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This article highlights it. I may make a video or post my own photos of the infill.
Nice, I'll have to check it out on my next visit.
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:29 PM
 
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Nice, I'll have to check it out on my next visit.
There's some other areas that have the infill construction going on around town but what's happening in DC is impressive. I'll check out what you posted when I go on my scouting trips.
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Old 05-22-2020, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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There's some other areas that have the infill construction going on around town but what's happening in DC is impressive. I'll check out what you posted when I go on my scouting trips.
You can see an aerial of Skyland Town Center and St. Elizabeth from 2019 in this video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiz1...ature=youtu.be

Skyland Town Center: 1:00 minute mark

St. Elizabeth East Campus: 2:04 minute mark

Both developments have multiple phases, but it shows some of the initial development.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whfngtgPW5U

For the OP, this video gives an overview of every single neighborhood in DC in alphabetical order. This should help you see DC through better eyes than google streetview. Enjoy!
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:08 AM
 
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Since you were looking for a socio-economic comparison to Old Fourth Ward, there is a neighborhood in Ward 8 called Hillcrest that has a substantial project called Skyland Town Center that will anchor the neighborhood which is full of single family detached homes.

Parkside/Northeast Heights is too urban and commercial to be compared to Old Fourth Ward, but Hill Crest shares the same beauty and leafy streets anchored by new mixed use development.

Hill Crest Neighborhood

Hillcrest SE DC (Ward 7) #1

Hillcrest SE DC (Ward 7) #2

Hillcrest SE DC (Ward 7) #3

Hillcrest SE DC (Ward 7) #4

Ten Facts You May Not Know About Hillcrest SE Washington D.C.

Video on Hillcrest Neighborhood History


Skyland Town Center

-480 units
-134,289 sq. feet of retail
-120,000 sq. feet of office


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Site Plan
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None of those areas remind me of Old Fourth Ward at all. As agreed Atlanta oesent have the same level of urbanity but your comparisons are way off. Maybe you arent sure of what all O3W is? I see PArkside way before I see Hillcrest

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

The houses are way to residential even though there is a part O4W with single family houses,the lots are small and major arterial streets have lack more single family dwellings and have more commercial and multi residential buildings like Parkside,
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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None of those areas remind me of Old Fourth Ward at all. As agreed Atlanta oesent have the same level of urbanity but your comparisons are way off. Maybe you arent sure of what all O3W is? I see PArkside way before I see Hillcrest

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

The houses are way to residential even though there is a part O4W with single family houses,the lots are small and major arterial streets have lack more single family dwellings and have more commercial and multi residential buildings like Parkside,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiz1NQo_9EI

Did you see the aerial view of Skyland Town Center (1:00 minute mark) and St. Elizabeth East (2:04 minute mark) in the video?

While I agree with you based on what you posted, what neighborhoods in Atlanta (Old Fourth Ward, Inman Park, Virginia-Highland, Candler Park, East Atlanta, Castleberry Hill, Sweet Auburn, West End, Ansley Park, Bankhead, Cabbagetown etc. etc.) would you say compare to the neighborhoods in DC below based on your experience:

Historic Anacostia = ?
Congress Heights/St. Elizabeth East = ?
Benning/Parkside = ?
Hillcrest/Skyland Town Center = ?
Deanwood = ?
Bellevue = ?

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Old 05-23-2020, 11:40 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiz1NQo_9EI

Did you see the aerial view of Skyland Town Center (1:00 minute mark) and St. Elizabeth East (2:04 minute mark) in the video?

While I agree with you based on what you posted, what neighborhoods in Atlanta (Old Fourth Ward, Inman Park, Virginia-Highland, Candler Park, East Atlanta, Castleberry Hill, Sweet Auburn, West End, Ansley Park, Bankhead, Cabbagetown etc. etc.) would you say compare to the neighborhoods in DC below based on your experience:

Historic Anacostia = ?
Congress Heights/St. Elizabeth East = ?
Benning/Parkside = ?
Hillcrest/Skyland Town Center = ?
Deanwood = ?
Bellevue = ?

Anacostia- Maybe the Westend
Congress Heights- Capital View
Deanwood-Oakland City
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Hillcrest/Skyland-Bankhead/Quarry Yards https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ol...!4d-84.3719735

Bellvue- Adamsville

I realize one of the many reasons DC reminds me of Atlanta is that is has a lot of low density suburban and poor areas just like Atlanta. Just like Atlanta those areas are often not known to the mainstream as they are tucked away from the main areas that are most populated and dense.
If there was ever an argument that can be used in the support of DC feeling Southern,its for reasons like this. A lot of Southerns feel very comfortable in DC. I know I do
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