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Atlanta metro is more diverse than people give it credit for especially in Gwinnett. Gwinnett is one of the most diverse counties in the nation along with Houston's Fort Bend County. With that said, having lived in both Houston is definitely more noticeably diverse than Atlanta.
It is diverse but not inclusive so to speak. Hispanics live mainly in Norcross, Asians in Duluth, Suwanee is mostly white - with 10% Native Americans and 10% Blacks, Lawrenceville does a fair job, being black and white but not much outside of that, Buford is white and hispanic. As a county it is diverse but it is still largely sanctioned off by individual communities.
When people cite diversity I tend to think of a balanced mix of all races willing to live in one community.
Again Dallas is more segregated. im not knocking Dallas for being in Texas near Mexico so why use Atlanta because its history of balcks being there longer?
Again you are talking boundaries that are fair to compare.If we did Fulton/Dallas county its not much difference. Dallas has a greater Asian percentage https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...rgia/PST045219
Again Dallas IS MORE SEGREGATED so what there to brag about?
I just feel its splitting hairs, most of the black population in Atlanta live either in Atlanta proper, east, or south Atlanta. I don't really see how its marginally less segregated than Dallas with the exception of Atlanta proper - given I gave you comparable suburbs that showed similar demographic trends.
With all the talk of diversity and this thread heating up, we should probably look at the numbers.
Diversity comes in two kinds: racial and ethnic.
Racial diversity is easy to measure. Below are the numbers:
Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington MSA:
White - 45.6% - 3,441,796
Hispanic - 29.0% - 2,189,777
Black - 15.6% - 1,177,026
Asian - 7.0% - 531,356
Houston/The Woodlands/Sugar Land MSA:
Hispanic - 37.6% - 2,632,586
White - 35.5% - 2,482,842
Black - 17.0% - 1,188,134
Asian - 7.9% - 547,690
Atlanta/Sandy Springs/Roswell MSA:
White - 46.4% - 2,760,176
Black - 33.8% - 2,009,862
Hispanic - 10.9% - 646,761
Asian - 6.1% - 363,274
Based on the above, the order of racial diversity is:
1) Houston
2) Dallas/Fort Worth
3) Atlanta
Ethnic diversity is tougher to measure. Looking at foreign born populations is probably the way to go. Its important to note that the numbers below ONLY include people born in other countries. People born in the US of those ancestries are not included here.
Lets start with the total foreign born population of each:
1) Houston - 1,648,768
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 1,414,578
3) Atlanta - 824,050
And here is the foreign born population by region:
Total Europe:
1) Houston - 71,165
2) Atlanta - 63,563
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 57,417
Northern Europe (UK, Ireland, Scandinavia)
1) Houston - 26,827
2) Atlanta - 16,700
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 16,609
Western Europe (Netherlands, Germany, Austria, France, Belgium)
1) Houston - 15,013
2) Atlanta - 14,826
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 14,642
Southern Europe (Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain)
1) Houston - 7,624
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 5,020
3) Atlanta - 3,376
Eastern Europe (Russia and former Soviet Block countries)
1) Atlanta - 28,475
2) Houston - 22,061
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 20,873
Total Asia:
1) Houston - 447,431
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 416,389
3) Atlanta - 275,691
East Asia (China, Korea, Japan)
1) Houston - 91,880
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 80,327
3) Atlanta - 74,232
South Asia (Indian Subcontinent, Iran, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan)
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 194,491
2) Houston - 154,699
3) Atlanta - 119,235
Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Burma, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia)
1) Houston - 151,384
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 113,163
3) Atlanta - 66,783
West Asia (Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Turkey)
1) Houston - 46,285
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 26,343
3) Atlanta - 14,591
Total Africa:
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 115,215
2) Atlanta - 105,577
3) Houston - 97,139
East Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Kenya):
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 42,819
2) Atlanta - 28,634
3) Houston - 16,932
Middle Africa (Cameroon, Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo)
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 15,257
2) Houston - 9,008
3) Atlanta - 8,001
North Africa (Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Lybia):
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 10,618
2) Houston - 9,323
3) Atlanta - 7,167
Southern Africa (South Africa, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique)
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 4,284
2) Atlanta - 3,782
3) Houston - 2,775
West Africa (Nigeria, Cape Verde, Ghana, Liberia, Sierra Leon)
1) Houston - 55,016
2) Atlanta - 53,036
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 35,451
Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa)
1) Houston - 5,033
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 4,462
3) Atlanta - 2,890
Americas (North America, South America, Central America, Caribbean)
1) Houston - 1,028,001
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 827,095
3) Atlanta - 376,253
Central America (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua, Belize)
1) Houston - 261,223
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 122,123
3) Atlanta - 63,031
South America (every country on the Continent)
1) Houston - 91,881
2) Atlanta - 64,018
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 54,975
We can dig more into detail below in another post. This is a general overview by region and there are differences within regions. I think if were ranking ethnic diversity of the three, it would be:
1) Houston
2) Dallas/Fort Worth and Atlanta
I see DFW and Atlanta being very similar in ethnic diversity. I just dont see how Houston isnt, unquestionably, the most ethnically diverse of the three.
Here are the fastest growing foreign born groups per metro area. Again these are only foreign born numbers. People born in the US of these ancestries are not counted here:
Atlanta metro is more diverse than people give it credit for especially in Gwinnett. Gwinnett is one of the most diverse counties in the nation along with Houston's Fort Bend County. With that said, having lived in both Houston is definitely more noticeably diverse than Atlanta.
It is diverse but not inclusive so to speak. Hispanics live mainly in Norcross, Asians in Duluth, Suwanee is mostly white - with 10% Native Americans and 10% Blacks, Lawrenceville does a fair job, being black and white but not much outside of that, Buford is white and hispanic. As a county it is diverse but it is still largely sanctioned off by individual communities.
When people cite diversity I tend to think of a balanced mix of all races willing to live in one community.
I just feel its splitting hairs, most of the black population in Atlanta live either in Atlanta proper, east, or south Atlanta. I don't really see how its marginally less segregated than Dallas with the exception of Atlanta proper - given I gave you comparable suburbs that showed similar demographic trends.
It was you who brought up Plano and Alpharetta as being vastly different and that wasnt true based on Census data I gave.
Atlanta is nmore diverse than that. As I pointed out I live in Clayton County. People say oh its all black with a 72% Black population but there are white counties in reverse ith similar numbers. Why cant a predominately black county be considered diverse?Especially when it has double digits of whites and other minority groups.
It seems white counties that have minorities are diverse but black counties are just black.
Like is said before:is there a majority minority county in Dallas or Hoiuston?
Fort Bend County is majority minority.
Non Hispanic White - 32%
Non Hispanic Black - 21%
Non Hispanic Asian - 20.8%
Hispanic - 24.7%
That’s pretty even there but I don’t see any other county in the Houston area besides Harris, that is majority minority.
I expect Collin County to join the majority minority group sometime this decade. As of 2019, the NH white population was only 55.9%. The Asian population is growing fast up there. Denton County could join at least a few years after them.
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Reason: Found updated numbers.
It was you who brought up Plano and Alpharetta as being vastly different and that wasnt true based on Census data I gave.
Atlanta is nmore diverse than that. As I pointed out I live in Clayton County. People say oh its all black with a 72% Black population but there are white counties in reverse ith similar numbers. Why cant a predominately black county be considered diverse?Especially when it has double digits of whites and other minority groups.
It seems white counties that have minorities are diverse but black counties are just black.
Like is said before:is there a majority minority county in Dallas or Hoiuston?
Fort Bend and Harris Counties in Metro Houston are majority minority. Dallas County is majority minority.
Fort Bend and Harris Counties in Metro Houston are majority minority. Dallas County is majority minority.
I would add that comparing counties in Texas and Georgia is not a good way to compare the two. The counties are so much larger in Texas in land size. It’s not really an apples to apples. Kinda like how Jacksonville is a “bigger city” than Miami or Atlanta. The later are a fraction of the land size.
With all the talk of diversity and this thread heating up, we should probably look at the numbers.
Diversity comes in two kinds: racial and ethnic.
Racial diversity is easy to measure. Below are the numbers:
Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington MSA:
White - 45.6% - 3,441,796
Hispanic - 29.0% - 2,189,777
Black - 15.6% - 1,177,026
Asian - 7.0% - 531,356
Houston/The Woodlands/Sugar Land MSA:
Hispanic - 37.6% - 2,632,586
White - 35.5% - 2,482,842
Black - 17.0% - 1,188,134
Asian - 7.9% - 547,690
Atlanta/Sandy Springs/Roswell MSA:
White - 46.4% - 2,760,176
Black - 33.8% - 2,009,862
Hispanic - 10.9% - 646,761
Asian - 6.1% - 363,274
Based on the above, the order of racial diversity is:
1) Houston
2) Dallas/Fort Worth
3) Atlanta
Ethnic diversity is tougher to measure. Looking at foreign born populations is probably the way to go. Its important to note that the numbers below ONLY include people born in other countries. People born in the US of those ancestries are not included here.
Lets start with the total foreign born population of each:
1) Houston - 1,648,768
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 1,414,578
3) Atlanta - 824,050
And here is the foreign born population by region:
Total Europe:
1) Houston - 71,165
2) Atlanta - 63,563
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 57,417
Northern Europe (UK, Ireland, Scandinavia)
1) Houston - 26,827
2) Atlanta - 16,700
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 16,609
Western Europe (Netherlands, Germany, Austria, France, Belgium)
1) Houston - 15,013
2) Atlanta - 14,826
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 14,642
Southern Europe (Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain)
1) Houston - 7,624
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 5,020
3) Atlanta - 3,376
Eastern Europe (Russia and former Soviet Block countries)
1) Atlanta - 28,475
2) Houston - 22,061
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 20,873
Total Asia:
1) Houston - 447,431
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 416,389
3) Atlanta - 275,691
East Asia (China, Korea, Japan)
1) Houston - 91,880
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 80,327
3) Atlanta - 74,232
South Asia (Indian Subcontinent, Iran, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan)
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 194,491
2) Houston - 154,699
3) Atlanta - 119,235
Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Burma, Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia)
1) Houston - 151,384
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 113,163
3) Atlanta - 66,783
West Asia (Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Turkey)
1) Houston - 46,285
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 26,343
3) Atlanta - 14,591
Total Africa:
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 115,215
2) Atlanta - 105,577
3) Houston - 97,139
East Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Kenya):
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 42,819
2) Atlanta - 28,634
3) Houston - 16,932
Middle Africa (Cameroon, Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo)
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 15,257
2) Houston - 9,008
3) Atlanta - 8,001
North Africa (Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Lybia):
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 10,618
2) Houston - 9,323
3) Atlanta - 7,167
Southern Africa (South Africa, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique)
1) Dallas/Fort Worth - 4,284
2) Atlanta - 3,782
3) Houston - 2,775
West Africa (Nigeria, Cape Verde, Ghana, Liberia, Sierra Leon)
1) Houston - 55,016
2) Atlanta - 53,036
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 35,451
Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa)
1) Houston - 5,033
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 4,462
3) Atlanta - 2,890
Americas (North America, South America, Central America, Caribbean)
1) Houston - 1,028,001
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 827,095
3) Atlanta - 376,253
Central America (Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua, Belize)
1) Houston - 261,223
2) Dallas/Fort Worth - 122,123
3) Atlanta - 63,031
South America (every country on the Continent)
1) Houston - 91,881
2) Atlanta - 64,018
3) Dallas/Fort Worth - 54,975
We can dig more into detail below in another post. This is a general overview by region and there are differences within regions. I think if were ranking ethnic diversity of the three, it would be:
1) Houston
2) Dallas/Fort Worth and Atlanta
I see DFW and Atlanta being very similar in ethnic diversity. I just dont see how Houston isnt, unquestionably, the most ethnically diverse of the three.
This was exactly what I have said.Some of these Dallas posters are going way out of their way to make Atlanta less diverse than it is
I dont think it is drastically different than Dallas or Houston in terms of diversity.
As a state, Texas is definitely Red, however; the major metro areas (Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio) are all actually quite blue.
I will give Cleverone however the notion of Atlanta electing the first black Mayor however. I dont think that will be coming to Texas for some time despite its blue urban areas.
Houston has a black mayor with a second term.
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