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Same thing that goes on across America. St. Louis case may just be more acute than others for several reasons that are locally and nationally relevant. As you can see. Minneapolis, which is probably the most progressive Midwestern city, is up in flames right now and this may actually be worse than Ferguson. Chicago and Detroit have had several race riots and probably only a matter of time before they have more.
Same thing that goes on across America. St. Louis case may just be more acute than others for several reasons that are locally and nationally relevant. As you can see. Minneapolis, which is probably the most progressive Midwestern city, is up in flames right now and this may actually be worse than Ferguson. Chicago and Detroit have had several race riots and probably only a matter of time before they have more.
Do you think we'll see 19th and 20th century style racial violence or worse in major cities again?
I personally don't think it's extremely likely, but I certainly don't rule it out either.
Do you think we'll see 19th and 20th century style racial violence or worse in major cities again?
I personally don't think it's extremely likely, but I certainly don't rule it out either.
I would not be surprised. I don't think there is a one size fits all solution to the problems we are facing. Hard conversations have to be had to come up with best practices. Shouting people down, looting, and screaming does not help anyone.
Chicago, Cleveland and Detroit always head the segregated list... Of the Midwestern cities, I find St. Louis having a bit of a Southern flavor more so than others... and, in this case, that's a good thing. I have found that, although there have been and are tensions, southern whites and blacks, post Brown especially, are more willing to live in close(r) proximity than in the more Yankee/northern cities like Cleveland, Chicago, Boston, Detroit ... etc. Hence these latter cities' higher degree of segregation.
Chicago's kind of weird. It has racial strife similar to what Detroit deals with, but it hasn't destroyed the city / region.
If you're bringing in the region, then Chicago wins handedly. None of them have totally destroyed regions, but Chicago proper has a lot of blight and hyper segregation on the South and West Sides. This is even worse over in northwestern Indiana, in particular Gary. Chicago also has declining suburbs south of the city in Cook County that are also highly segregated.
Chicago, Cleveland and Detroit always head the segregated list... Of the Midwestern cities, I find St. Louis having a bit of a Southern flavor more so than others... and, in this case, that's a good thing. I have found that, although there have been and are tensions, southern whites and blacks, post Brown especially, are more willing to live in close(r) proximity than in the more Yankee/northern cities like Cleveland, Chicago, Boston, Detroit ... etc. Hence these latter cities' higher degree of segregation.
I was talking to my mother about this. How come we don't see race related riots in southern cities like we do in midwestern and western cities? Last time Atlanta has had a race related riot was in the 60s.
I was talking to my mother about this. How come we don't see race related riots in southern cities like we do in midwestern and western cities? Last time Atlanta has had a race related riot was in the 60s.
It is interesting how often diversity and integration are conflated. Some cities can be segregated and lack integration as well. The same argument can be made for some cities that are conservative but socially integrated whereas other cities that are well known for their liberalism also have high poverty and ethnic groups typically stay/interact with their own kind.
If you're bringing in the region, then Chicago wins handedly. None of them have totally destroyed regions, but Chicago proper has a lot of blight and hyper segregation on the South and West Sides. This is even worse over in northwestern Indiana, in particular Gary. Chicago also has declining suburbs south of the city in Cook County that are also highly segregated.
Chicago has a lot of blight on the South and West Side, but nothing compared to 40% - 60% of the city in every direction virtually reverting back to nature like it has in Detroit (only Englewood comes close), nor its downtown core completely hollowed out like it had until recently in Detroit.
As far as Northwest Indiana / Gary, I'd say Flint is a comparable analog for Detroit (or even worse thanks to the Water Crisis).
In terms of size and economic relevance, Chicago's region was still growing handily up until the Great Recession (and it's still solidly the top 3 largest in the country), while Detroit's region stagnated with the decline of the city proper since 1970.
St. Louis is the natural lighting rod for this poll, because the events in Ferguson cast it into the spotlight. But as we’ve seen over and over and over and over again, there is nothing really unique about the dynamics here than pretty much everywhere else. Police brutality against black Americans is as old as the United States, but I credit St. Louis/Ferguson as being the first city to actually push back and say NO MORE. Without STL/Ferguson creating the movement, tragedies like Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray, Philando Castile, George Floyd and countless other murder victims at the hands of police might only be footnotes in a forgotten history. Not anymore. The United States of America was founded on racist and oppressive principles and no city is immune to this systemic disease. Whether some are less horrid than others in this regard is a game of meaningless semantics, and any argument in favor of one city’s relative “harmony” to another undermines the work needed to actually champion equality in our society. The USA is a racist nation.
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