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Old 01-06-2023, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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This is because the radius around zip code 98103 completely misses the areas of South Seattle that has far more Black, Hispanic, and Asian people. It's a bad area code to use for density and especially for diversity.
What zip code would you use instead?
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Old 01-06-2023, 04:42 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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10 most urban contiguous 50 square miles of land that are non-overlapping with others

1. Manhattan with the Bronx save for Fieldston area in the Northwest and the easternmost sections (basically, non-subway served sections)

2. Brooklyn excluding the southeastern section of Brooklyn that are more wetlands, and SFH neighborhoods away from the subway

3. Queens excluding of the non-Flushing part of Northeastern Queens (not suburban) and the Rockaways (not contiguous)

4. Chicago with the Loop and adjacent neighborhoods and then going south a little, west some and north a lot

5. San Francisco as a city with a bit of Daly City

6. Bergen Neck peninsula in New Jersey with is basically Hudson County east of the Hackensack and south of I-95 in the north excluding Secaucus

7. Philadelphia core

8. Boston downtown core into densest parts of Cambridge and Somerville

9. Most of Central Los Angeles with a bit of South Side

10 is a hard one. I want to say DC, but 50 square contiguous miles is a lot and I'd almost put a split on the western fringe of Central LA that's not super well-defined combined with the Westside as a more thoroughly urban expanse, but with less extended peak urban areas
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Old 01-06-2023, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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10 most urban contiguous 50 square miles of land that are non-overlapping with others

1. Manhattan with the Bronx save for Fieldston area in the Northwest and the easternmost sections (basically, non-subway served sections)

2. Brooklyn excluding the southeastern section of Brooklyn that are more wetlands, and SFH neighborhoods away from the subway

3. Queens excluding of the non-Flushing part of Northeastern Queens (not suburban) and the Rockaways (not contiguous)

4. Chicago with the Loop and adjacent neighborhoods and then going south a little, west some and north a lot

5. San Francisco as a city with a bit of Daly City

6. Bergen Neck peninsula in New Jersey with is basically Hudson County east of the Hackensack and south of I-95 in the north excluding Secaucus

7. Philadelphia core

8. Boston downtown core into densest parts of Cambridge and Somerville

9. Most of Central Los Angeles with a bit of South Side

10 is a hard one. I want to say DC, but 50 square contiguous miles is a lot and I'd almost put a split on the western fringe of Central LA that's not super well-defined combined with the Westside as a more thoroughly urban expanse, but with less extended peak urban areas
Can anyone tell me why people on CD always forget Chelsea MA? The densest municipality in New England?

Do people just not know it exists? Directly north of and adjacent to Boston..?
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Old 01-06-2023, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The core 50 miles of Philadelphia was built before the car and is consistently very urban with no gaps beyond a block or two:


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6. Bergen Neck peninsula in New Jersey with is basically Hudson County east of the Hackensack and south of I-95 in the north excluding Secaucus
I don't agree
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Old 01-06-2023, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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I don't agree
Same. Understood that North Jersey has some very high peak densities, but I'm also skeptical that its consistency exceeds Philadelphia's core. Too many highways and water inlets for that to be true, for one.

I'd put it below Boston, as well.
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Old 01-06-2023, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Can anyone tell me why people on CD always forget Chelsea MA? The densest municipality in New England?

Do people just not know it exists? Directly north of and adjacent to Boston..?
I didn't know that it existed. It's only 2 square miles. Where would it rank on this list?
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Old 01-06-2023, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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10 is a hard one. I want to say DC, but 50 square contiguous miles is a lot and I'd almost put a split on the western fringe of Central LA that's not super well-defined combined with the Westside as a more thoroughly urban expanse, but with less extended peak urban areas
Central LA is probably more uniformly urban than DC at 50 sq/mi but DC’s immediate core is significantly more built up than LA’s even accounting building height.
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Old 01-06-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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I didn't know that it existed. It's only 2 square miles. Where would it rank on this list?
By itself? It’s a non-factor at these scales.
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Old 01-06-2023, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Can anyone tell me why people on CD always forget Chelsea MA? The densest municipality in New England?

Do people just not know it exists? Directly north of and adjacent to Boston..?
It wouldn’t really change Bostons ranking. Philly has bigger shoulders despite being slightly less dense than Boston.

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Old 01-06-2023, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I didn't know that it existed. It's only 2 square miles. Where would it rank on this list?
I appreciate the honesty.
It’s like 19,000 ppsqmi. Heavily Latino and heavily heavily undercounted. Probably over 20,000 ppsqmi. And until very recently very impoverished. Much denser than Boston overall- just not nearly as posh or trendy as Cambridge.

A ton of the dense More working class urban towns cities adjacent to Boston are virtually never discussed here. It’s downright eerie.
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