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View Poll Results: The Leader in This Class/Tier/Level/League of Cities
Richmond 13 11.02%
Louisville 2 1.69%
Memphis 4 3.39%
Oklahoma City 1 0.85%
Tulsa 1 0.85%
Hampton Roads Virginia 1 0.85%
Birmingham 0 0%
Jacksonville 2 1.69%
They're All About Even/Too Close to Call 0 0%
Too Hard Can't Decide/There is No Leader 1 0.85%
I don't like these cities 6 5.08%
Some Other City 0 0%
Raleigh 24 20.34%
Greenville 3 2.54%
Grand Rapids Michigan 4 3.39%
Omaha 4 3.39%
Milwaukee 20 16.95%
Providence Rhode Island 4 3.39%
Tucson 0 0%
Salt Lake City 25 21.19%
Fresno California 3 2.54%
Voters: 118. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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Which One of these Classicly Urban Cities Not quite in the BIG Leagues but Larger than the little leagues Rises to The Front of this Tier

These Cities are About Even Population wise with similar size metros and economic growth rates, Is there a Leader in this League of Cities?, Which one would you say is Numero Uno

To Be Specific
Excluding cities like New York
Tier 1Cities Atlanta Dallas etc
Tier 2 Nashville Austin Charlotte etc
Special Tier New Orleans Class all on its own
Tier 3 Richmond Louisville Memphis Oklahoma City Jacksonville Birmingham Hampton Roads-(Virginia Beach, Norfolk) Tulsa other??
Tier 4 Little Rock Knoxville Charleston Greensboro etc
Tier 5 Montgomery ,Jackson Ms ,Mobile, Augusta etx

The One doing best Currently
Your Favorite City in this League
Your Least Favorite City in this League
Best Future Outlook
Leader of this Pack

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Old 10-07-2020, 11:31 AM
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Milwaukee has traditionally been a more major city than the rest of them and still seems more prominent so I'll go with that. It seems more in that "tier 2" category.
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Old 10-07-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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SLC takes this one. The true size of its metro area is larger (by at least 50%) than its MSA population suggests.
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:31 PM
 
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I disagree about Milwaukee. I just returned from there and while I really like it and it definitely looks like and is on the scale of a more significant city, it seems too ragged and blue collar to be a prominent city in 2020.

The downtown has the bones of a big city but the downtown neighborhoods seem really small. It seems to lack the grand boulevards and commercial thoroughfares that a city it’s size usually has.

I do love it there. It was my second trip (sister moved there 3 years ago). But when I got back home (Richmond) everything looked more polished and civilized (homes in better shape, yards more tidy, restaurant and boutique interiors more arty) a tiny bit smaller but on a better trajectory.
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:46 PM
 
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Hmm. I just looked at a bunch of aerial photos of the Milwaukee downtown area. The hoods do look pretty extensive. Maybe the topography makes it feel more cut up than it is and when you get get used to it, it’s feels
more contiguous. I look forward to becoming more familiar with the city.
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Old 10-07-2020, 04:45 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Hmm. I just looked at a bunch of aerial photos of the Milwaukee downtown area. The hoods do look pretty extensive. Maybe the topography makes it feel more cut up than it is and when you get get used to it, it’s feels
more contiguous. I look forward to becoming more familiar with the city.
I remember old Mke vs Rich threads in years past, having now spent time there how would you relate the two in scale of urbanity, amenities, cultural attractions, people, etc? How does your sister relate the two?

My recollection of the old threads are of majority of people having never been to, much less lived in, both, so there wasn't a ton of objectivity...
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Old 10-07-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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I'd consider Milwaukee to be a step ahead of most of these cities.

Milwaukee aside, I'd go SLC. SLC is poised for significant and continued growth.. As well positioned as any Mountain West city.
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Old 10-07-2020, 05:55 PM
 
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SLC takes this one. The true size of its metro area is larger (by at least 50%) than its MSA population suggests.
I agree with this /\
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Old 10-07-2020, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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I Never hear about Richmond in Real life, But it seems to get Rave Reviews on here
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Old 10-07-2020, 06:24 PM
 
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I remember old Mke vs Rich threads in years past, having now spent time there how would you relate the two in scale of urbanity, amenities, cultural attractions, people, etc? How does your sister relate the two?

My recollection of the old threads are of majority of people having never been to, much less lived in, both, so there wasn't a ton of objectivity...

My sister loves it. She moved there from Denver (lived in Denver for about 25 years) and is happier with Milwaukee. It does many things better than Richmond (like actually getting people downtown on the weekends) and the people seemed pretty similar. I sought out the trendy and hipster parts of town which were pretty similar to Richmond’s.

The infrastructure in Milwaukee was bigger (the roads and interchanges are mostly elevated whereas in Richmond they are sunken so maybe they are about the same, you just see it more in MKE). The roads are wider and the buildings are a bit taller but I think downtown Richmond has more buildings packed in to the same size area. Their cultural attractions seemed more family oriented whereas Richmond’s seem more adult (fancy, studious) but this is just my impression based on very little evidence so don’t put much stock in it lol.


I suspected that I’d like Milwaukee and it didn’t disappoint. While there I thought it was better than Richmond, but then I drove around Richmond when I got home and the whole area just seems more robust and more polished (with more construction).
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