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I'll bite... I definitely agree with most and you that Detroit is more similar to Cleveland, but Chicago and Detroit do have quite a few similarities. Both received many Eastern European immigrants (Cleveland i believe as well). Both are among the most segregated cities of the US still. Both have rivalries in sports (Bulls-Pistons, Blackhawks-Red Wings, even Bears-Lions). Both have the two highest ranking Big Ten universities in close proximity. Both have massive funding issues (Detroit bankruptcy, CPS near bankruptcy). Both are among the most corrupt cities in the US. Both have two of the more famous organized crime leaders (Al Capine and Jimmy Hoffa). Both have strong music histories.
Folks are still trying to wrap the University of Michigan around Detroit and make it a city school, even though it's situated 45 miles away. But OK... And also, as a super-large public U compared with a small private one in Northwestern, the 2 schools are very different.
Folks are still trying to wrap the University of Michigan around Detroit and make it a city school, even though it's situated 45 miles away. But OK... And also, as a super-large public U compared with a small private one in Northwestern, the 2 schools are very different.
I mean it's not a "city school" but its still involved with metro Detroit and the city itself; it is 20 miles from some western Detroit suburbs (here's a link to to show its involvement https://detroit.umich.edu/ ). There are certainly differences between the two schools but I was just making the point that both cities are in close proximity to the top two academic big ten schools even though neither is located in the city proper.
The whole point of my post though was to show that Chicago and Detroit have many similarities. Again, though I still believe Cleveland and Detroit are more similar.
I mean it's not a "city school" but its still involved with metro Detroit and the city itself; it is 20 miles from some western Detroit suburbs (here's a link to to show its involvement https://detroit.umich.edu/ ). There are certainly differences between the two schools but I was just making the point that both cities are in close proximity to the top two academic big ten schools even though neither is located in the city proper.
The whole point of my post though was to show that Chicago and Detroit have many similarities. Again, though I still believe Cleveland and Detroit are more similar.
I find similarities in Detroit and Chicago in their open, down-to-earth, unpretentious personalities, generally. Sports and sports bars are a huge thing in both cities as well as Big 10 sports, esp football. Also both cities are pancake flat -- prairie-like -- and some of their residential architecture is similar in style -- Chicago, of course, has many, many more brick apt buildings and flats while Detroit is largely a single-home, often wood-frame city.
I find similarities in Detroit and Chicago in their open, down-to-earth, unpretentious personalities, generally. Sports and sports bars are a huge thing in both cities as well as Big 10 sports, esp football. Also both cities are pancake flat -- prairie-like -- and some of their residential architecture is similar in style -- Chicago, of course, has many, many more brick apt buildings and flats while Detroit is largely a single-home, often wood-frame city.
It really is a shame how much of Detroit's built environment has disappeared after 70 years of decay. There was a point when it had quite a bit more brick apt buildings and flats. Though obviously never to the level of Chicago. Detroit at it's peak had a pretty impressive density especially within a few miles of downtown. Thought pretty much all of the land it annexed between the 1920's-40's has a very pronounced sfh tract. My vote was Cleveland on this one.
I also find Detroit and Cleveland residents to be very similar from a cultural perspective.
Can you elaborate on the last part?
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