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Old 10-20-2022, 07:26 AM
 
Location: New York City
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^ Willow Grove Park, PA.

Only 32 stores, lower than I thought. Nordstrom has rapidly expanded, but Bloomingdale's seems to stay in mostly larger markets. I can't think of any recent openings of full-line stores.

We should do Saks next!
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Old 10-20-2022, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Can someone explain why Bloomingdales is no longer in the Texas market? Is it because of Neiman-Marcus? Also, if somebody does Saks, you will see a noticeable missing city of Dallas. Wonder if that is also because of Neiman-Marcus.
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Old 10-20-2022, 09:22 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Can someone explain why Bloomingdales is no longer in the Texas market? Is it because of Neiman-Marcus? Also, if somebody does Saks, you will see a noticeable missing city of Dallas. Wonder if that is also because of Neiman-Marcus.
I think Bloomingdale's exited Texas in the 90s, not sure why, or why they haven't returned? Bloomingdale's is heavy with coastal locations and hasn't expanded to many interior parts of the country, besides Chicago.

I know this day in age isn't ideal for department store expansions, but I'm sure a full-line Bloomingdale's would do well in Dallas or Houston.

A relative just visited NYC from Nashville, she said she wishes Nashville had a Bloomingdale's. They have a Nordstrom, but she also likes certain brands not found at Nordstrom.
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Old 10-20-2022, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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DFW has no Bloomingdales or Saks? That's very odd imo.

Saks Fifth Avenue Full Service store locations:

Canada: 3

Calgary, AB
Toronto, ON(2)

Mexico & Central America: 2
Mexico City, DF

Midwestern US:7
Chicago, IL
Beachwood, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Columbus, OH
Indianapolis, IN
St Louis, MO
Troy, MI

Northeastern US: 8
Bala Cynwyd, PA
Boston, MA
Chevy Chase, MD
East Rutherford, NJ
Huntington Station, NY
Greenwich, CT
McLean, VA
New York, NY

Southern US: 16
Atlanta, GA
Bal Harbour, FL
Birmingham, AL
Boca Raton, FL
Houston TX
Miami, FL(2)
Naples, FL
New Orleans, LA
Palm Beach, FL
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Raleigh, NC
Richmond, VA
San Antonio TX
Sarasota, FL
Tulsa, OK

Western US: 7
Beverly Hills, CA
Costa Mesa, CA
Honolulu, HI
Las Vegas, NV
Palm Desert, CA
Phoenix, AZ
San Francisco, CA
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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DFW has no Bloomingdales or Saks? That's very odd imo.

Saks Fifth Avenue Full Service store locations:

Canada: 3

Calgary, AB
Toronto, ON(2)

Mexico & Central America: 2
Mexico City, DF

Midwestern US:7
Chicago, IL
Beachwood, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Columbus, OH
Indianapolis, IN
St Louis, MO
Troy, MI

Northeastern US: 8
Bala Cynwyd, PA
Boston, MA
Chevy Chase, MD
East Rutherford, NJ
Huntington Station, NY
Greenwich, CT
McLean, VA
New York, NY

Southern US: 16
Atlanta, GA
Bal Harbour, FL
Birmingham, AL
Boca Raton, FL
Houston TX
Miami, FL(2)
Naples, FL
New Orleans, LA
Palm Beach, FL
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Raleigh, NC
Richmond, VA
San Antonio TX
Sarasota, FL
Tulsa, OK

Western US: 7
Beverly Hills, CA
Costa Mesa, CA
Honolulu, HI
Las Vegas, NV
Palm Desert, CA
Phoenix, AZ
San Francisco, CA
Supposively, Neiman Marcus does everything in their power to prevent those from entering. Not sure how true that is
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:17 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Supposively, Neiman Marcus does everything in their power to prevent those from entering. Not sure how true that is
Not in New York haha. The only NM shut down during the pandemic, and even though Bergdorf Goodman was bought by NM, it still has much sovereignty as a separate brand. NM is the only major department store chain that is not present in NYC
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Not in New York haha. The only NM shut down during the pandemic, and even though Bergdorf Goodman was bought by NM, it still has much sovereignty as a separate brand. NM is the only major department store chain that is not present in NYC
I just read that Neiman Marcus closed their Manhattan and Walnut Creek stores as part of their bankruptcy proceedings during the pandemic. Both were among their newest locations.
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Old 10-20-2022, 01:08 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I just read that Neiman Marcus closed their Manhattan and Walnut Creek stores as part of their bankruptcy proceedings during the pandemic. Both were among their newest locations.
Yup. And they closed a few others outside of DC, Seattle and I think Boston? Those weren't new stores though. But per business news, it appears the brand is in a healthy state. Good to hear, I'd be sad to lose another famed department store (like Barney's and Lord & Taylor).

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Not in New York haha. The only NM shut down during the pandemic, and even though Bergdorf Goodman was bought by NM, it still has much sovereignty as a separate brand. NM is the only major department store chain that is not present in NYC
It was a mistake for Neiman Marcus to open their store in Hudson Yards.
If they return to Manhattan, they should take over the former Barney's space at 60th/Madison. Wiser to stay in proximity to other luxury department stores (Saks, Bergdorf, Bloomingdales, Nordstrom).
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Old 10-20-2022, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I guess the moral of the story is retail is very cut throat-you sink or swim. the loss of Barneys NY still hurts.
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Old 10-20-2022, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Saks or Bloomingdales would be cool for DFW. I get that they like the Neiman Marcus legacy buy it being the only of the 3 in the region (supposing we aren’t counting Nordstrom) holds them back from some potential. Meanwhile Houston has one of the best Saks Fifth Aves in the country. In my honest opinion, Saks is easily the best of the luxury department stores in 2022
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